Tracks cancelling are hurting themselves and their sponsors

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GAS It

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1st. 100 degrees is hot. But, IMO, not hot enough to stop racing.

As a business owner being asked to sponsor the track or a car(s), what am I getting for my money?
Racing season is proposed to run April through September/October. By taking 4-5 weeks off does not give a good impression of the sport. Granted, rain could also put a damper on the possibility of running, but that is unavoidable and more understandable. Choosing not to run, just because you feel it's too hot, shows me that your not as dedicated as I'm sure you proposed when you were seeking money to advertise on your billboards, or sponsoring a night. It give a bad image, IMO.

By taking time off your fans are quickly finding other activities, your sponsors are also finding other ways to spend their advertising dollars.

Staying open and breaking even or even loosing a couple of bucks will keep your cars, sponsors and fans. If you need a packed house to make just a little money, your not doing something right.

Go ahead and bash for giving my opinion, but I'll be the one that decides how to spend my money.
 
GAS It said:
1st. 100 degrees is hot. But, IMO, not hot enough to stop racing.

As a business owner being asked to sponsor the track or a car(s), what am I getting for my money?
Racing season is proposed to run April through September/October. By taking 4-5 weeks off does not give a good impression of the sport. Granted, rain could also put a damper on the possibility of running, but that is unavoidable and more understandable. Choosing not to run, just because you feel it's too hot, shows me that your not as dedicated as I'm sure you proposed when you were seeking money to advertise on your billboards, or sponsoring a night. It give a bad image, IMO.

By taking time off your fans are quickly finding other activities, your sponsors are also finding other ways to spend their advertising dollars.

Staying open and breaking even or even loosing a couple of bucks will keep your cars, sponsors and fans. If you need a packed house to make just a little money, your not doing something right.

Go ahead and bash for giving my opinion, but I'll be the one that decides how to spend my money.
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WRONG. It is easy to say that when you are not the one losing the money. They lose more than "a couple of bucks" when it is this hot. Feel free however to start up your own track and run when it is this hot.
 
What do you get for your money,when the tumbleweeds are blowing through the Grandstand,and the rats and termites are the only things watching the SHOW???? ;)
 
rat's ,,termites @ b-vill............................at highland they have ground hogs,,really,they are on the hill behind the pits
 
Gas It, You hit the nail on the head!! Somethings being done wrong.Granted temps in the mid 80's with a standing room only crowd would be perfect.But this heat wave has been here to stay.Seems like giving up without trying to cope with it was a easy way out.JMO.Things like-free ice water(donations accepted)maybe dollar snow cones.No one can convince me you'll lose money off a dollar snow cone.
 
So tell me how do you "COPE" with losing thousands of dollars on weeks that the temps are like this? There is nothing wrong with people being disappointed that they dont get to see races. But d@mn come on people. There is nothing that is being done wrong. Unless cancelling to survive is wrong. Some of you have no clue. Lets see how many of u step forward if Don ever walks away from promoting. If so we better run every week no matter what and i dont care if you lose $25k during race season. Then maybe you would understand.
 
smaldirt28 said:
So tell me how do you "COPE" with losing thousands of dollars on weeks that the temps are like this? There is nothing wrong with people being disappointed that they dont get to see races. But d@mn come on people. There is nothing that is being done wrong. Unless cancelling to survive is wrong. Some of you have no clue. Lets see how many of u step forward if Don ever walks away from promoting. If so we better run every week no matter what and i dont care if you lose $25k during race season. Then maybe you would understand.
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Ok i have to ask,Just what does it take to break even for the night,Does the track not have sponsorship to help when times get tough.Just wondering i really would like to know the numbers...thanks Rick
 
I have been told that it costs between $17-$18k to run a night. That includes track lease, driver payout, worker payout, ambulance, insurance, etc.
 
GAS It said:
1st. 100 degrees is hot. But, IMO, not hot enough to stop racing.

As a business owner being asked to sponsor the track or a car(s), what am I getting for my money?
Racing season is proposed to run April through September/October. By taking 4-5 weeks off does not give a good impression of the sport. Granted, rain could also put a damper on the possibility of running, but that is unavoidable and more understandable. Choosing not to run, just because you feel it's too hot, shows me that your not as dedicated as I'm sure you proposed when you were seeking money to advertise on your billboards, or sponsoring a night. It give a bad image, IMO.

By taking time off your fans are quickly finding other activities, your sponsors are also finding other ways to spend their advertising dollars.

Staying open and breaking even or even loosing a couple of bucks will keep your cars, sponsors and fans. If you need a packed house to make just a little money, your not doing something right.

Go ahead and bash for giving my opinion, but I'll be the one that decides how to spend my money.
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You should sign your name and business so you have some credibility, otherwise your just a disgruntled fan.
 
Maybe, maybe not. I really think these last two posts, either work at the track or at least have something to do with the track, either way, there's only like five at the most that throw out something negative but with every negative they throw out they have six positives to go along with it. So, when you add it up it comes to more positives verses negative, which shows that they are more right than you two are. But, I'm sure we will be there the next race with more fans than you two. Maybe you two should help more by doing the same itself of dogging the fans that know things you don't know.
 
Once again another classic post. I have nothing to do with the track or its operations like you are thinking, so there you are wrong again. Are the things i post about this facts? Absolutely. Maybe i will stop dogging you or the others that are bashing belleville when you remove the blinders and actually see and understand what is going on. All of my posts are not only to support belleville but to try and make those that dont quite understand, realize what is going on and that it is not the end of the world here. The weather will break and we will get back to racing again.

By the way ptony what do the fans know that i dont? Please explain. Facts only too please.
 
I tend to agree with Gas It....His point has merit in some circumstances. When a business closes for a day, the only day they are open for most tracks, the mortgage is still due, the fuel for weekly track prep is still due, if employees are utilized, that their pay due too. The burden rate of just planning to be open cost money and if the track isn't open for whatever reason to try and recuperate the cost's then it's a loss. That has be compared to the potential losses of a slow race night. Where that judgment call lies, I don't know. All factors of capital would have to looked at and considered upon for each individual basis.
 
smaldirt28 said:
I have been told that it costs between $17-$18k to run a night. That includes track lease, driver payout, worker payout, ambulance, insurance, etc.
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Alot of people do not realize the cost for just one night of racing. Once you commit to a show......you have to pay that amount no matter what. When your under a lease or just promoting a track that you dont own......that is some serious decisions and i agree with your posts Tom 100 percent. Funny thing is this.....if they did run and lost out big time and had to shut down............same people would be on here griping about that as well. Cant please them all.......just do the best pleasing the ones you can i guess.
 
If your a business man sponsoring racing, and your worried about "What your getting for your money" (other than a tax write off) you probably have no business sponsoring it. In fact, you probably have no business being in business. Lets face it, unless your a race shop or other business who's target audience is car or racing related, there are much more lucrative and cost effective advertising opportunities out there than the limited audience of 500 to 1000 people you will impact once or twice a week. Most who sponsor racing know this before they ever write the check.

Speaking solely for myself, I can honestly say I don't expect to see any return on my donation. And IMO thats basically what it is....a donation. I sponsor a race track, two racecars, a vintage car, along with a number of softball and little league teams, a hockey team, a barrel racing association, and high school rodeo to name only a few.

I do so because of my love for those sports, the individuals involved, and my desire to see them thrive and flourish. Of course that is contrary to what you bashers are accomplishing with your ridiculous criticism and uninformed opinions. You people are not true fans and supporters of the sport, but merely selfish minions who's lack of loyalty is surpassed only by your ignorance of the consequences of your actions.

By wrongfully and irresponsibly bad mouthing the tracks and heaping public ridicule upon the promoters (who are making business decisions based on criteria unknown to you), you are doing much more harm than than your little pea-brains will ever be capable of understanding. The negativity you are spreading by making a post like this, will leave lasting detrimental impressions in the minds of current and future patrons and your mindless rants will also deter potential sponsors. Great Job! If you really want to inform the promoter of your opinion, maybe next time you could do it privately.

Thank You to all the bashers for your unwaivering support, and for un-doing the good I felt I accomplished by sponsoring racing and trying to keep it alive.
 
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