Tri-City Speedway HUMPY'S STATEMENT!!!

I would rather have the trophy than the money when I quit my trophy a is all I have i55 or Belleville have feature winning stickers or trophys in 2013 or at least on the nights I won
 
This is my idea for the b-mod. As few of rules as possible, rules cost money,and they will always get bent. Any motor,any transmission,any rear end, any fuel, any carb, any tire, any suspension. Rules min. weight for safety, 10 inch steel wheel, open front end, shock claim. This way there should be plenty of used parts to pick from. Maybe some guys will go back to making their own parts. Cars will all be a little different looking body wise, depending on what someone likes. NOW HERE IS THE TWIST!!!! Depending on the car count , all will get paid the same per lap. I thought $5 per lap for heats and $10 per lap for feature. This way there is no financial gain to have a high dollar ride.If they want to race for more money there is the a-mod. This would give everyone money to cover entry fee and back to the track the following week. Cars will get torn up less, tire bills will be low, which means more cars return. I really think this would work with a little tweaking. What do you guys think? Kevin would this work. We would like to put one together but I keep looking at the 11th- 20th place money and say I must be a fool. I stood in the pits at belleville @ the summer nationals and the mods where qualifing from 12.7- 13.2. I had the track record there @13.02 and later on rick bayer broke it in the high 12s back around 1985. That was a $6000 car with a single tire pulling, but they were superior tires in the day!!!!!!!
 
Wow! No incentive or reward for hard work or success. No competition.

You should call them "O-Mods" ....O for Obama and count me out from participating or watching.
 
Dave34 said:
Wow! No incentive or reward for hard work or success. No competition.

You should call them "O-Mods" ....O for Obama and count me out from participating or watching.
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A " RACER" will prepare and race as hard for $100 or $1000 it is a thing called pride. How can you put a car on the track and get $40 back if you make the feature.
 
I think the idea of "no rules" would result in 5 $50000 modifieds raced by people who would use the $5 a lap to buy beer at the end of the night with.
 
t.nie said:
I think the idea of "no rules" would result in 5 $50000 modifieds raced by people who would use the $5 a lap to buy beer at the end of the night with.
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That would be fine, I could buy the same beer with my lap money, providing I finished on the lead lap.That is the idea of splitting the purse.
 
Most people race to win, not just drive around in circles to collect beer tokens. No rules would just make it easier for a couple people to dominate with unlimited money and run the majority off. If all you are doing is driving around in circles to get your $5 a lap and you could care less where you finish, I wouldn't really call that racing.

I'd call that "practicing."

And if you put some stipulation on the feature that you have to be on the lead lap after 20 laps or whatever to get a little more cash, now you are forcing people to spend enough in the class to keep up with the few rich kids spending a fortune or be lap traffic all night. So the decision at that point is how much do i have to spend to still lose but make a little more money by staying on the lead lap?

Again, I don't see much incentive to build a back marker, get lapped or not get lapped, and watch the unlimited money guys run away with it every night. Unless of course I have unlimited money and I just want to race with my few rich kid buddies every weekend to see who's buying the beer.
 
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racinfan4life9999 said:
This is my idea for the b-mod. As few of rules as possible, rules cost money,and they will always get bent. Any motor,any transmission,any rear end, any fuel, any carb, any tire, any suspension. Rules min. weight for safety, 10 inch steel wheel, open front end, shock claim. This way there should be plenty of used parts to pick from. Maybe some guys will go back to making their own parts. Cars will all be a little different looking body wise, depending on what someone likes. NOW HERE IS THE TWIST!!!! Depending on the car count , all will get paid the same per lap. I thought $5 per lap for heats and $10 per lap for feature. This way there is no financial gain to have a high dollar ride.If they want to race for more money there is the a-mod. This would give everyone money to cover entry fee and back to the track the following week. Cars will get torn up less, tire bills will be low, which means more cars return. I really think this would work with a little tweaking. What do you guys think? Kevin would this work. We would like to put one together but I keep looking at the 11th- 20th place money and say I must be a fool. I stood in the pits at belleville @ the summer nationals and the mods where qualifing from 12.7- 13.2. I had the track record there @13.02 and later on rick bayer broke it in the high 12s back around 1985. That was a $6000 car with a single tire pulling, but they were superior tires in the day!!!!!!!
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sorry that is plain stupid
 
Heya T.nie.I didn't say you need UMP.Fact is that all the tracks in the area will remain UMP.You say you don't need a sanction???? What track are you running or going to run???I hope you can talk B Town, Highland, Tri City , or I 55 in to running these cheap classes. Id love that, but the fact is, is that the classes will still be the same, and unchanged.
 
and why all the talk the car counts have been pretty the big problem is getting fans in the stands when you had 4 .00 a gallon for gas admission and food gets a lil expensive for the fans to show up hopefully 2015 will be better
 
SaltyDog1s said:
So come on track owners I know it shouldn't be all on your shoulders. The sanctioning bodies should step up. Let's be pro active and let's go to a 40 only rule in area. Must pass duramater test.. Atleast.. Let work together to fix what the sanctioning bodies wont
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I agree with Rick. Why not 40s only? What does a promoter lose by going to a only one tire rule? Afraid to piss off Slamming Sammy and UMP?
Somebody help me here.
 
Wow changing the tire rule to 40s only will really increase car counts and put butts in the stands.....good idea :(
 
I would say TCS or Pevely would be the prime candidates to run Budget Racer "Funday Sunday".

Use the track as is from the previous night's racing, two trophy classes, $20 pit pass, no purses, concessions relay simple, hotdogs and potato chips and that's it. Races start at 2, finish by 5. Give the guys an extended hot lap session to practice too. Novice racers can't get enough seat time.

I'd bet you'd get a decent turnout for it over a few months to let it grow and the idea to catch on and if you aren't shelling out cash for purses and all you need is a couple trophies, it's a money maker.

People can scoff at this idea all they want, but I don't see anyone else trying to come up with any new ideas to get people participating. Quite frankly I don't understand why anyone with a facility would want it sitting idle any more than it absolutely had to. If I could get 150 people at $20 a pop in the gates on a Sunday afternoon and sold $500 worth of coke and hotdogs, and it cost me all of $2000 to do it, I just came out $1500 ahead that week and maybe did something to help my sport/business in the future by doing so.

Why no 40s only? They don't wear out fast enough and the sponsor wants to sell as many tires as possible. Many of the decisions sanctions make aren't based on what's the most economical solution for the racer, but in fact the exact opposite; how can the sponsor sell more product and make more money off the racers. There are examples all over of this. Parts allowed in the rules in exchange for sponsor money, fuels chosen by who puts the most cash in, etc.

I would bet if Hoosier was only allowed to sell 40s, and sold a lot less tires, they wouldn't put much money in as a sponsor either. Tire rules aren't written by the sanction for the racer, they are written by the sponsor in exchange for the sponsorship money.
 
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mudface said:
Wow changing the tire rule to 40s only will really increase car counts and put butts in the stands.....good idea :(
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There are lots of other things that need changing but this is a no brainer. promoters can dictate so even the Nazis at Ump couldn't stop it. This one change would save racers a ton of money. Should be only one tire for all classes. JMHO
 
yes tnie its called a point you know that lil banqquet they have every Jan, try putting that on with no money
 
Case in point.. Who has ever NOT enjoyed watching the vintage cars run?? They put on some of the best racing in the 2 classes they bring. Not to mention the nostalgia is great, and shows younger fans how they were built in the day.. Are we not all aware that they ALL get the same pay??? Does it hurt their show???. No.. They race hard as hell!! A pleasure to watch if you ask me! It can work... dont say it cant... It will have to be an economy class, but it will work.. Racing is racing... Speed is relative.. If you have passing and side by side racing, and fans with an interest in the class it WILL work. especially in a bullring..
 
Mudface... Where is your suggestion??

You do realize by putting 40's on lm's that it will make compition better. Hp won't be as big early. Making racing better for fans.. Is it only thing that needs changed no..

Do I like running against teams that have open checkbooks?? NO. But I know class I run in though.. I'm here to tell you I don't have new shocks or 30,000 engines.. Heck Id might sell whole setup for that!!

My point though is you don't need all the bells and whistles to be fast.. Does it make it easier.. Heck yea.. But hard work gets it done to!!
 
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