Well first off fredericktown was my favorite track but after last night i hate that track!!!!!!!! They need to learn how to watch the race they blacked flag the 23 car for supposely spinning out the 01 car!!!! When if u were watching u would of seen for ur self that the 23 car was at his door and the 01 car turned down on him. And thats how he spun then they blacked flag 23 and told him that he was not aloud to come back cause he was pissed and said somthing about it when there is alot of drivers who get in arguments wit the officals and get kicked out for a couple weeks or just gets warning the first night the 23 supposley spins out the 01 car he is kicked out for ever!!!!! That is ****in retarded. They will be loseing alot of cars if they keep playin favortism!!!!! The 01 car needs to learn how to drive and quit blocking!!!!!!! And i want to know who made that call cause when we asked the track manger who made that call he said that he did nt know why they made that call!!!!! But he was the one who said we were kicked out!!!!! And if fredericktown race officals wanna see the tape i have it i will gladly show anyone who wants to see it cause it clearly shows the 23 car beside him and he even pressed his brake when the 01 turned down on him!!!!!
Pro 4"s at fredericktown raceway
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racewidow
I'm just drawn that way..
Myself and another official made the call to black flag the 23 with the approval of the other 3 officials. Reason being, we still heard the engive revving while the 01 car was being pushed up onto the tire. That is considered overly agressive driving. That call is for everyone across the board, no matter what class. We do not put up with aggressive driving like some of the other tracks do - that is our perrogative and it will remain. All in all, it can also be considered a safety issue. Had he let off the gas, he would have had the caution called on him and would just have to have gone to the back.
When a driver or crew attacks another driver in his pit, that is an automatic dismissal. Also, getting into the face of the track manager and starting a screaming match isn't going to get you anywhere either. That technically is considered attacking an official (he is also an official) and that is also a dismissal at the discrecion of that official.
It's been proven in many instances, that you get treated the way you treat people. Handling matters in a calm manner will get things resolved as opposed to threats and fighing. Had you calmed down and discussed it, I'm sure an agreement or compromise could have been reached.
Fredericktown is not for fighting or rough driving, the sooner everyone realizes that, we will continue to have some great racing like we've been blessed with having so far thus season.
When a driver or crew attacks another driver in his pit, that is an automatic dismissal. Also, getting into the face of the track manager and starting a screaming match isn't going to get you anywhere either. That technically is considered attacking an official (he is also an official) and that is also a dismissal at the discrecion of that official.
It's been proven in many instances, that you get treated the way you treat people. Handling matters in a calm manner will get things resolved as opposed to threats and fighing. Had you calmed down and discussed it, I'm sure an agreement or compromise could have been reached.
Fredericktown is not for fighting or rough driving, the sooner everyone realizes that, we will continue to have some great racing like we've been blessed with having so far thus season.
StarRacer
I Run My Own Race
Well said Tracy.
But lemme tell you something chick, sometimes you just cant fix stupid.
Luckily I caught the incident on tape as well and I will glady post it if you wish to see it and compare?
Btw-- isnt it the driver BEHIND the car's job to get AROUND the driver infront of them. Call it blocking? I call that racing. Nobody is just gonna be like "hey, just go around me, I'd love to give up this spot for you? " Would you do it? No.
JMO
But lemme tell you something chick, sometimes you just cant fix stupid.
Luckily I caught the incident on tape as well and I will glady post it if you wish to see it and compare?
Btw-- isnt it the driver BEHIND the car's job to get AROUND the driver infront of them. Call it blocking? I call that racing. Nobody is just gonna be like "hey, just go around me, I'd love to give up this spot for you? " Would you do it? No.
JMO
Mama B #667
Mama B #667
JMO, as well.... it's not blocking, how the heck can you intentionally "block" when you have NO mirrors to even see who the heck is behind you. If a person is running their line, and making it difficult for others to pass...I call that racing...now if we had rear-view mirrors and could see WHO was behind us...then that might be considered BLOCKING. Sounds to me like if folks didn't have something to complain about it might be ...ummmm amazing. Let see, you don't win, so you whine.
And as for the , ummm Gentleman.... who had some better ideas or suggestions for the track...why not post them? (or call Jeff & Tracy) Or do you WANT to see the track fail? The way I see it is if you don't like the track...build one yourself and YOU make the rules.
Whiners never win...and winners who ignore the whiners are a class act. They don't lower themselves to the level of complaining, whining and uncouth crybabies. ....and hey, this is also JMO
Keep up the good work Fredrock!! Best of luck to Tracy, Jeff, JP and all the others who are trying to do the very best they can. Jeezzzzz, cut the track some slack, it's not like they've been around 20 years...they are still working out the kinks...besides, isn't it "Progress, not perfection" that counts? There are plenty of other track in the bi-state area...go visit one of them, I'm sure they'd love to have you!
raceking89
New Member
i would like u to post that tape please
racewidow
I'm just drawn that way..
Last night, I received what I think to be a very mature phone call from Jess23 asking about their suspension and how soon they could come back to the track. I received a sincere apology (which should actually go to the officials involved) and I think she/they are on the right path.
We've all been in situations where our emotions and passions get the best of us (and I'll go ahead and throw out the fact that it was in the upper 90s that night, too.) I'm the first to say what foot-in-the-mouth tastes like and I think they learned something.
I have faith that calmer heads will prevail in the future and will see them again after 2 racing nights.
We've all been in situations where our emotions and passions get the best of us (and I'll go ahead and throw out the fact that it was in the upper 90s that night, too.) I'm the first to say what foot-in-the-mouth tastes like and I think they learned something.
I have faith that calmer heads will prevail in the future and will see them again after 2 racing nights.
I completely agree that calmer heads most always prevail. Anyone who is involved with racing will, at one time or another, lose there cool and say and do things they later regret. It isnt always on the part of the racer, officials also get caught up in the moment. It is for that very reason that I dont believe that suspensions or fines or whatever should be handed out at the track. I think it is best to wait a couple days, cool off a bit, and make a rational decision on appropriate punishment.
my opinion only, for what its worth
Derek
my opinion only, for what its worth
Derek
mikehalpinjr
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