The new late model rules
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http://www.stlracing.com/2016/11/09...-adopt-unified-dirt-late-model-council-specs/
These are all late model series, not just a UMP rule change.
westlingracing
Race or Die
If those rules are not adjusted then we are done! If my Butlerbuilt containment seat or new RCI fuel cell isn't going to be good enough I'm not going to buy new. I have a Hans Device and a high dollar suit but I know a lot do not, that's a lot of money. I'm seeing it at around $5k for some to get to the rule.
But the fire system is stupid, what needs scrutinized and enforced by these sanctioning bodies is making tracks have certified fire and safety crews. I'd rather pay more at the gate and be sure I have experienced people there, than a device with a nozzle aimed in 2 places to save my life!
This will eliminate weekly local latemodel racing. Maybe I will just cut off the front clip and put on a new stub and race modifieds?
Lucas and Woo would rather eliminate all weekly latemodel's and have them just come in for specials is what it looks like to me!!!!!
But the fire system is stupid, what needs scrutinized and enforced by these sanctioning bodies is making tracks have certified fire and safety crews. I'd rather pay more at the gate and be sure I have experienced people there, than a device with a nozzle aimed in 2 places to save my life!
This will eliminate weekly local latemodel racing. Maybe I will just cut off the front clip and put on a new stub and race modifieds?
Lucas and Woo would rather eliminate all weekly latemodel's and have them just come in for specials is what it looks like to me!!!!!
Kermit the Frog
Well-Known Member
Some of those rules have been in place for a year or two just not inforced I don't think there going to send any cars home not sure how they can force them on the LM class and not every class speeds aren't that much different
Kermit the Frog
Well-Known Member
There's also an argument to be made the safety equipment caused Landers injury I'd say anyone over 18 has the right to choose there own equipment
racin90
Well-Known Member
My thoughts too. Not so sure if its ump making and enforcing this but rather the lawyers and insurance companies demanding this
t.nie
Patience Tester
I get the "suggest versus require" bit of that. But I don't think you can sue them if you follow the rules and still get hurt.
You still sign that form that says racing is dangerous and you waiver any right to sue the track and participate at your own risk. All these rules are addressing is some ways in which someone could claim the sanction was negligent in not making you take full preventative measures in your own car with your safety equipment. That doesn't put the responsibility all on the sanction if you get hurt, as "motor racing is dangerous and you participate at your own risk." It just absolves them of one more thing someone could possibly try to use against them. Write it in the rules, save the lawyer cost of defending a lawsuit later.
Writing this kind of stuff into the rules doesn't cost the sanction anything. It just puts more cost on the racer.
I think the big part of it was the wheel covers being properly secured and no steel wheels. Flying wheels/wheel covers pose a pretty big threat to anyone getting hit by them. The fire stuff just seems like overkill.
You still sign that form that says racing is dangerous and you waiver any right to sue the track and participate at your own risk. All these rules are addressing is some ways in which someone could claim the sanction was negligent in not making you take full preventative measures in your own car with your safety equipment. That doesn't put the responsibility all on the sanction if you get hurt, as "motor racing is dangerous and you participate at your own risk." It just absolves them of one more thing someone could possibly try to use against them. Write it in the rules, save the lawyer cost of defending a lawsuit later.
Writing this kind of stuff into the rules doesn't cost the sanction anything. It just puts more cost on the racer.
I think the big part of it was the wheel covers being properly secured and no steel wheels. Flying wheels/wheel covers pose a pretty big threat to anyone getting hit by them. The fire stuff just seems like overkill.
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After doing some research, UMP definitely needs to push the new rules off a year. I contacted circle track supply about a seat. They sent me a link to a 88 series seat stating that it is 2017 legal for UMP. In the description it didnt have anything about the sfi rating, so I contacted Kirkey. They said the seat doesnt have the rating, but they are in the process of developing it. Also that last they heard the rule was going to be pushed off until 2018. So buyers be aware of the misinformation out there.
