Can He Be Beat?

[MOD FAN]

Billy Smith Is On A Role This Year. He Hasnt Ever Been Beat Twice In A Weekend. Who Will Be The One To Do It? He Has 7 Wins And 2 Second Place Finishes. I Am Thinking Track Champion At Both Track. For All Of You Dirt Works Boys , You Should Have Bought A Thompson.

[j.j.slideways!!]

scott weber came and raced at the rock and farmington i bet he'd win. i wish weber and brian worley would come down. theyre both fast

[MOD FAN]

He Has Already Smoked Worley At Fredericktown 2 Weeks Ago. But I Would Love To See Him Race Against Weber. Weber Is A Damn Good Driver. I Think Alot Of People Would Love See That Match Up At Farmington Or Fredricktown. Maybe Soon We Will See That Match Up.

[N2R8CIN]

I think since Billy is on a role with winning @ these two tracks he should go to other tracks and see if he could win.

Maybe he should go to Pevely!!!!!

[j.j.slideways!!]

i bet he'd get whooped at pevely. what do you think peggy?;)

[N2R8CIN]

I think it would be a good show.

[ac04]

The only chance Smith would have is getting Weber down at farmington or fredricktown, and with the way Weber is running I don't even know then because he's winning at every track he goes even if it's not his car.
But Weber would give him a whoop'n at Pevely. I'd like to see it though, both guys are at the top of the class.

[NoMore_24]

come to brownstown if he thinks hes that damn good and see what he has got then :D

[j.j.slideways!!]

weber would stillw in. brownstown would be no different

[dirtgirl]

Easy there boys and girls :) These are 2 very different types of drivers and different tracks. I think it would be fun to see Billy at I-55 because he is another TOP QUALITY CAR that all spectators in the stands come to see and pay for.
Congratulations to Billy you are on a nice roll right now... And Congratulations to Scott " WOW " I think he would have about 13-15 wins so far I lost track. Wished we had his problems :rolleyes: LOL!!! And I 'd take Billy's also :D
Continued Success to both these guys and all the other drivers and crews.
Especially ours :rolleyes: :cool: :D

And by the way WORLEY is not chump change he is darn GOOD and proves it week in and week out. Like to have his problems also LMAO!!! :D :D

[dirt hound]

good luck to the c4 crew,you guys need the curse lifted ms cleo is looking for some chicken again lmao

[j.j.slideways!!]

heard billy got waxed(lapped) at pevely saturday night. heard scott weber one by half a track! way to go scott! not knocking billy smith cause he is a great driver. i was just making my point that i was right about a billy vs. scott matchup. scott won!

[FaithfulFan]

Obviously, you weren't at the races Saturday night. Yes, Weber did win and Billy struggled, BUT your comment that Billy got "waxed" is totally out of line. First of all, Pevely is Weber's "home" track. He races there every week (or at least pretty close). It is tough to come to Pevely and just dominate the field. I am a HUGE Scott Weber fan myself, but I am also a HUGE Billy Smith fan. One is on a role in the UMP modified division, while the other is on a role in an IMCA style modified. You really can't even compare the two. Plus, it was a last minute rain out at SFCR that sent the likes of Billy Smith and Kenny Kennedy to Pevely Saturday night...not really a lot of time to do too much to their cars. They ran what they had...and you can guarantee that Weber has the better "set-up" at that track. So, before you make such a silly comment about Billy getting "waxed" I think you should consider both sides of the issue. Billy and Kenny both made the feature and were both involved in a crash. Billy even had to go in and change a flat and was starting to move up. Can't you just enjoy the fact that these guys got to go to Pevely and race for a change. They give it their all EVERY time they race. Please, don't make comments to take anything away from them. I'm sure Weber would even agree that Billy, Kenny, and Brent Thompson are high class guys who are competitive drivers. So, no, you didn't win the Scott vs. Billy debate!!!

[dirtgirl]

Tell Mrs. Cleo I have the chicken bones if she would supply the services .... :) HELP MS. CLEO!!!!! Are you out there? Or still in jail????

[j.j.slideways!!]

faithfulfan, i'm sorry for posting what i did. but i didn't mean to make anyone mad. and yes i understand about the whole farmington rainout deal. i know they didn't have much time to get their cars setup for pevely and i also know weber has his car setup for pevely. i really think though it'd be a really close race at fredericktown. so once again faithfulfan, i wasnt knocking billy nor did i mean to offend anyone.

[Swappin Paint]

billy needs to keep picking his battles wisely. b/cuz the one at i55 saturday was not. he has nothing for those boys with the big toys! no offense to billy just outclassesed there.

[MOD FAN]

For Whoever Said That He Got Lapped By Weber, He Didnt. He Started 23rd Out Of 24 And Made It Up To 14th. He Was Also Involved In A Wreck And Had A Flat Wich He Had To Go Repair During The Yellow. So He Started From The Back Again Over Half Way Through The Race And Still Made It Up To 14th. He Was Up To 12th Twice But The Caution Kept Coming Out. He Would Have Easily Been A Top Ten Car If It Wasnt For All Of The Cautions. Ump And Imca Are Two Totoally Different Kinds Of Racing. Billy Doesnt Have Near The Motor Weber And Some Of Those Other Ump Drivers Have. I Think He Did A Great Job And He Will Do Better The Next Time He Goes Up There.

[qwikrnu]

BILLY NEVER SMOKED BRIAN WORLEY ,brian had problems all night as sometimes happens in racin ,especially in the feature with that kid in the #11 car that cant drive a line anywhere, and sat at pevely billy was only in the feature because he was the first alternate from the semi(dograce), billy is a good guy but some people get carried away when comparing tracks and drivers, brian said he would race on sun. at the rock but fri. effect his job. WAY TO JOE G. keep it up 85g

[MOD FAN]

I Am Not Taking Anything Away From Worley. He Is A Good Driver But When It Comes Down To It. When The Cars Are Equal. Billy Is The Better Driver . An Imca Car At A Ump Track , Of Course The Ump Cars Are Gonna Be Faster. But When U Add Wieght To A Ump Car And Make It Equal To A Imca Car Look Who Is Better. Worley Wasnt The Only One At Frederictown That Night That Races Ump. Rusty Griffaw Was There Also. He Got 3rd In The Feature And He Is Ranked 3rd In The Nation In Ump Points. Billy Almost Lapped Worley That Night And He Beat Out 2nd By Almost An Entire Straight Away. Imca He Rocks But In Ump He Is A Little Short On Horse Power, But He Makes That Up With His Ability To Make Things Work.

[Swappin Paint]

billy moved up because of those cautions also, don't forget.

take into consideration the ump boys have to add weight to the nose of the car. not where they would like to. different tires than they're used to running. also they probably don't know frederock like the back of their hand like billy does.

so until the playing field is equal, you're comparing apples to oranges and who is the best driver is pure speculation.

[HobbieStocksFan]

I am a fan that attends Fredericktown and Farmington on a regular basis, so i have the pleasure of watching some VERY takented Modified drivers. Billy is one of them ! He always, yes always, gives every race 100%. He is a clean driver so that makes him a crowd favorite at both tracks. Who cares who is better than who ???????? Even the best have bad nights. So Billy, do NOT allow trash talk to interfere with your game plan. Continue to charge as hard as you can and WHEREVER you finish, HOLD YOU HEAD UP HIGH !!!!!!! See ya Friday :D LeaDonna

[MOD FAN]

Yall Got What U Wanted. Billy And Weber Raced Against Each Other Tuesday Night At Farmington. Billy Was Winning The Feature For About Half Of The Race Until Kenny S. Passed Him On The Last Lap. And Yes Weber Did Spin Out. Probally Because He Just Choked Or Something. I Guess He Was So Embarrassed That He Spun Out That He Figured That He Would Just Get Off The Track While He Could. So It Took A Nascar Driver To Beat Billy At Farmington On Hoosiers. Rusty Griffaw Got 3rd Which He Is 2nd In The National Points. So I Guess My Case Is To Rest On Who Is The Best.

[crash9]

Billy led about 3 laps. Bittle led about 20 laps, broke and pulled off. Billy then took the lead and led three laps before Schrader won. Weber spun when he passed Griffaw and Labaube for second place and was chasing down Bittle. He had a flat tire. Scott probably would have won had than not happened. I have nothing against Billy, infact I'm a fan and wanted him to win it there at the end, but get your story straight. I believe this is weber's third time down there for the UMP show, and I think it's the first one he's lost. Could be wrong about that though.

[TheKiddIsHere]

I am getting tired of everyone thinking that Billy isn't as good as Weber or some of those other guys from Pevely. After Weber spun, Billy was gaining on Bittle and I think there was a good chance he would have gotten around him. You never know! Anyway, Billy is one heck of a driver and give him a little time on UMP tires and he'll be there with the BIG BOYS every week. If he had a good tire sponsor right now, he would probably be running UMP every week.

[crash9]

Did I say Weber was better. I do think that he was the one to beat before he spun. Go another night and Billy will be better. He did great and almost came away with a big victory. I would love for him to run more at I-55.

[BlackPearl]

You people need to get your head examined. Your last names are not Weber, so why are you worrying about it? It is comments like the ones above that are absolutely ridiculous.

Scott could not continue in the race due to the right front tie rod was crushed and the car would not turn; otherwise he would have went to the back and continued. It's not a big deal, stuff happens!

[alfman]

Billy just needs a few more sponsors to step up to the plate and help him pay for aluminum heads for his car; the other major difference between IMCA and UMP besides tires. Nice to drive UMP races down on horse power isn't it? He has proved he has the skill, now if a few more business owners would step up to the plate Billy could have a top flight program. :cool:

[BlackPearl]

It just so happens that we have a VERY NICE set of FRESH 11X mildly ported aluminum heads for sale. Please call for further info: Scott or Tina Weber (636-931-6841). We'd be happy to try and help.

We also sell slightly used Hoosier Tires, please call for what's available.

[Ace]

There are no ump and imca cars.The only difference is tires and aluminum heads.aluminum heads create no more horsepower than steel ones.The only advantage is weight.But,Nearly all of top ump guys run dart blocks.Dart blocks are 50 pounds heavier.No horsepower advantage over stock.Just better oiling and better cooling.Lesson-Most top and several other ump drivers engines weigh the SAME as your imca/sfcr racers.Note if these guys came to fred.the would have to add 50 pounds on front of car and would be 50 pounds heavier than your imca boys.Tires-there is a VERY SLIGHT handling differance.If you good on one youll be good on the other.The oppisite applies also.Ill bet you didnt know that billy smiths motor has more cubic inches than scott webers did you?You cannot compare billy with scott or anyone that is not a sfcr regular.Its not fair or even realistic.You have two top drivers at sfcr.Billy and Brent Thompson.They are the best there and in a class of their own.This is a fact-The top sfcr racers motors would be about average with the I-55 racers motors.Get the cylinder head out of your head.Its internal parts that make the difference.Not steel and aluminum heads.I that what alot of the faster cars at sfcr have.They are not at a diadvantage at all at I-55.I can garantee this.I also know for a fact 2 of the top drivers at sfcr get alot more,and im talking in thousands,alot more sponsor money than probably most of the I-55 racers.At LEAST half.Anyone who read this and didnt know is now smarter than they were 3 minutes ago.Congrats.

[alfman]

Hey ACE, you're killing me here. Yes I know Billy's motor has more C.I. I also know that it doesn't matter how many C.I. a motor is to support a bigger motor equals more H.P. argument. Why do four cylinders outrun V8's now? It's all about the internals; and yes aluminum heads do add to making more H.P. than steel heads. Weight+HP=Speed; to break this down for you now, a 300hp engine in a 1200lbs car will be faster than a 300hp motor in a 1400lbs vehicle. This is done is the same automobile and the weight difference is created by adding weight. I wanted to clarify that before you tried to add unnecessary comments to the equation. The UMP tire is also tackier than the IMCA tire period no argument. A UMP car by the rules is supposed to be faster period.

Actually my IQ dropped from a 136 to an 86 after reading your "think I know it all" jabber.

[dirtgirl]

Bottom line anyone can be beaten on any given night.. Get over the bickering... :rolleyes: And quit comparing drivers it will make you nuts.
If you read the above point proven already :)