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michelle said:
I do know that I have voiced some of my concerns and issues directly to Barry and heard his response.
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When the new 4m was released some of the other posters have also voiced their concerns and dislikes, they were told that if they didn't like to go elsewhere, I guess they took his advice. I told him it $ucked and he banned me...lol
 
I'm not saying I love it. Like i said there are definite pros and cons but I think they could say that about anything. It will just take time to sort out and in the long haul, we will see how the cookie crumbles.

I would rarely ever post on 4m before because it could instantly turn in to a bash sessions. I've been pretty regular on STL because it is my home area and because Jimmy keeps a lid on nonsense when people are crossing the line. The new 4m is trying to reel that in too and I respect that but it's just a real touchy thing on how far you go.

As I always say "time heals all" so we'll see....
 
PEORIA#75FAN said:
Someone overestimated their ability and underestimated their task.

When some one takes on a monumental task of revamping a site like 4M you had best done your homework.

Asking for members to be "Beta testers" after the project has started???

**Need the assistance of some of the more tech savvy crowd to help us dyno some of the issues we are fixing. I guess "beta" is the wrong word. More like "chassis alignment."

Not understanding that more than one person in a family uses the same computer????

**Um, OK. Understood and people can use the same PC.

Putting on film clips then deciding it takes to much bandwidth???

**Not a bandwidth issue as all clips are hosted on Hipcast. Site developed at www.dirttracktv.net as a companion to 4M.

Avatars and signatures is a big deal then they use to much bandwidth???

**Avatars too much bandwidth? I can agree on sigs and rules were in place that were broken, hence, no more sigs.

Moderators still showing personal preference on who gets deleted and who doesn't???

**Let me know just who has/is and I will look into that.

Very "Generic" looking pages???

Very difficult to surf??

**That's your opinion.

I am not a member so there are more problems for them I guess??

**Then why do you have an opinion? If you hate it so much why do you continue to brow beat, flame, and try and bring 4m down. I guess its not surprising when your the same person that was campaigning dirt4m. I guess some people just can't be satisfied.

Perhaps as they rid themselves of some of the older members they will tune it to the Advertisers, Younger more sophisticated user.( Those who buy the shirts, only follow major races and are star struck).

Eventually I see it as pay to join site. Controllled by advertising.
Of couse I realize that advertising is essential and if 4M can make money that is also great.

**Advertising yes. Paying no.

As I slowly wean myself from the 4M site I am finding out it is not so hard.

Still enjoy the "TAILGATING" but it will soon die along with the "PEORIA POSSE" and other such meanderings. And I guess that is the new 4M.

**Nope. In fact I enjoy that section.

More sophisticated and probably less knowlegable contributers. Some who think Bloomquist invented dirt racing. OH WELL!!!!
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PEORIA75...since this is such a big issue to you go ahead and contact me. My email is barry@atomicxr.com or better yet give me a call at home at 320-230-2883. I appreciate your interest (or lackthereof as you continue to state) so why don't you help me make 4M what you think it should be. At the same time we can solve world hunger, the War on Iraq, and possibly define Michael Jackson's true sexual identity.

As for Murph....whatever dude/person/hidden agenda guy.

Keep the hate coming guys! It only fuels my ambition to make the site better than ever.

Regards,

Barry
4M Admin
 
4m.net said:
Keep the hate coming guys! It only fuels my ambition to make the site better than ever.[/B]

Regards,

Barry
4M Admin
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4m was the best ever, you guys took it and ruined it for everybody, keep listening to the Drunken Race Clan, their agenda is to use 4m to keep the hits coming to their scumbag web site. Face it, your new XOOPS format or whtever you call it $ucks and you have ran off the 4m loyal 10 year long fan base. Come on Clint and Gerald, dump this whole deal before it's too late.

And remember most people took your advice when you told them if they didn't like to leave....lol
 
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Barry,Barry, Barry what can I say? Thanks for clearing things up.

This thread is becoming stale I thought it would go to page 2 and die.

The war? World Hunger? Michael? Thanks for the invitation. Prince still has me confused.

Hate 4M? I think not. Look at when this thread was started and count the posts. Hardly the platform to bring 4M down. If this is the fuel to drive you to making 4M a top site then by all means use it.

I guess I am old fashioned to believe that when one accepts an undertaking to complete a task that pride in what you do and do the work to your utmost ability should be the defining factor.


Tout Dirt 4m? When the lights were flickering and people were looking for sites before the fade to black I not only touted Dirt 4M but Whowon.com and this very site. This site is in my opinion is still the most informative news site of all. I am sure you did a background and are satisfied that I do not have an agenda.

There will be no E-mails,pm's or calls coming from me. I like it out here in the open. I can not help you with 4M . It is now your baby.

Pick your fuel Barry. Hate or Pride?

Good luck

Peoria
 
Dear Murph,

I am not involved with 4m in any way.

There are two moderators on 4m who post on my board time to time, I see both of them maybe one time a year. I would hardly say they are core members of The Drunken Race Clan. And if they were, so what? As long as they do their job on 4m, who cares what they do in their off time.

I have used 4m, the same way many race tracks, sanctions, and websites have, I have advertised my Dirtfans.com site, and articles I have wrote. If your going to attack me, please be fair and call out Bucky Doran, Doc Lehman and Dave Seay as well.

As far as being scumbag, please check out dirtfans.com and tell me what is not up to your standards on there.

I have not promoted or posted the link to The Drunken Race Clan's forum since the switch over. I don't need to. I average over 3000 hits a day on there, and the board is comprised of friends and family, I could care less what you think about it, or those who post on it. Everytime you slander someone for their participation on there, you show how shallow and closed minded you are.

Thank god I am lucky enough not to know you.

Have a good day friend.
 
Dear Jody,

The things you guys pulled in Florida this winter was enough to convince me of your mind set, and Rob a 4m moderator is a card carrying member of your clan.

I don't need friends like you

Have a good day as well........:D
 
Industry outlaws was not apart of the Florida results. That was put on a DRC Blog to be truthful so it was not apart of Dirtfans specifically.

I think what Todd and Jody are doing for this sport is remarkable, they do a good job at what they do. I like the fact that they are real and tell it like it is. That is something this sport needs, otherwise it is going to go down hill faster then what it already is.

The whole Rob Reimer being a moderator to 4m is his business, it has nothing to do with him POSTING on the drc forum. As a mtter of fact I didn't think you couldn't have anything to do with certain people to be a moderator on 4m. :confused: But anyways, I wanted to put my thoughts in on this whole situation because I didn't agree with what was said and thought you should know the truth.



BTW, You shouldn't be so judgmental towards people.
 
UMP & The world

Endeaver21. Glad you posted,I have a question for you since you are much closer to the scene than I.

There is a rumour going around that Sam and ump may not be in charge of tech. at the world 100 this year. This came out of Ohio. Heard anything?
 
PEORIA#75FAN said:
Endeaver21. Glad you posted,I have a question for you since you are much closer to the scene than I.

There is a rumour going around that Sam and ump may not be in charge of tech. at the world 100 this year. This came out of Ohio. Heard anything?
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I don't know what your talking about....Im not even from Ohio so if you are trying to say I started this rumor then you are sadly mistaken.
 
Rumors Are Just Thar Rumor For Instance A New Walmart On 204 Near 270 Rumor :d :d :dAND BYTHE WAY IS SOMETHING IS WORKING WHY TRY AND FIX I.E WORLD 100 YEAH HAVE FAST TRACK AND STAN LESTER RUN IT LMFAO
 
Endeavor21 said:
I don't know what your talking about....Im not even from Ohio so if you are trying to say I started this rumor then you are sadly mistaken.
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No where did I imply that you or any one else started the rumour.
I mis read your post I guess. I thought you were a raceing media type. Those guys know these things first.

Eldora is in Ohio.

I'll just have to wait for a PR from someone.;)
 
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