I was watching the silver crown cars on the back straightaway a couple of years ago, and most were in the 140 - 142mph range at the back gate right before they let off-- with a radar gun.. one car ran 143 a few laps, I didn't get to see what the mods were running, though. I think schrader would have qualified mid pack in the crown cars this year with his qualifying run. way heavier car and small tires,,, that's getting it done for sure