Let's put this Limited (B) Mod thing to rest...

racewidow

racewidow

I'm just drawn that way..
There have been many questions asked and rumors going around about Fredericktown and the Limited Modifieds (B-Mods). Let me fill you in on what's going on.

Since the class has had a low car count, dropping them was under consideration. Jeff had spoken to a couple of drivers last week and asked what they thought of dropping them. Those drivers were ok with that and were just going to move up.

We hate the idea of dropping the class completely, so this is what we've come up with: until the class brings its car count up, they were invited to come to the track to run with the UMP modifieds. When there are enough limited mods to run their own feature (say 10), we will do so.

We hope this gives those drivers who haven't had a chance to get their limited mods to the track a chance to get out there and a chance for the class not to die at the track. Hopefully this solution will work and we will resume the class soon.
 
Hopefully this works out. People might not bring a b-mod to race if they know they wil be racing aginst a mods. I dont race them and would be leary to try to compete aginst them. I have seen a couple of these cars run and they do a good job of competing . Good luck to the b-mods and hopefully you all can have a better turn out. I have been enjoying the racing at fredricktown and I am sure they do to. It is thoughtful of the management to let them run with the a mods and not just dropping them.
 
It doesn't seem like it would be fair to run them with the a-mods. for one, they would be getting screwed on points. They would be listed under UMP Modified Points which would probably put them somwhere around 150th in the east region, when running UMP LIMITED MODS, they would possibly be in the top 15-or so. If they cant bring a car count, let them go. There's a track 20 miles up the road that carries a good car count and is UMP Sanctioned. You would benifit from letting them go. Yes, you would. You could use that purse money for special shows, divide it among the other classes (take care of the drivers that are good to you), or use the money for overhead so you could possibly keep the track open a full season this year.
 
i am sure if the drivers don't mind why should anyone else. this issue is between the track and the drivers:D
 
we run at doe run every friday night in the bmods. its just a closer track and sponsors are closer to Doe Run than fredericktown. we raced down at fredrock on the first night but that was it. i am sure you all have given this a good hard thought and sometimes things just dont work out for whatever reason, but Jeff is doing a GREAT job at running that track. On a side note this is just me thinking out loud and wanted to see if management had ever thought about doing this, possibly race at like 4pm on sunday afternoons then you could be out of there at like 7-8? wouldnt have to worry about disturbing the local comunitty very much and still could get people to pull a reasonable distance. i mean you could keep you B-mods and you wouldnt be competing with Doe run. like when doe run had their purestreets out there, they only had 3 cars. so both tracks lost cars due to having the same classes on the same night. just thought MAYBE it could help Both tracks in car count? im sure ya'll have thought about it and im sure there is a good reason why it isnt done. but just a thought.
 
MajikJak said:
It doesn't seem like it would be fair to run them with the a-mods. for one, they would be getting screwed on points. They would be listed under UMP Modified Points which would probably put them somwhere around 150th in the east region, when running UMP LIMITED MODS, they would possibly be in the top 15-or so. If they cant bring a car count, let them go. There's a track 20 miles up the road that carries a good car count and is UMP Sanctioned. You would benifit from letting them go. Yes, you would. You could use that purse money for special shows, divide it among the other classes (take care of the drivers that are good to you), or use the money for overhead so you could possibly keep the track open a full season this year.
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Races are run together... Points are recorded separately and reported separately for the A & B / Limited Mods.
 
I've been saying for years, Sunday racing is the answer to the car count. Sunday racing in this area would yield a very nice car count in any classes. Someday, someone will start running on sunday and that will be the biggest show around !
 
i don't know about the sunday thing. other it was fine back in the day. but since ump only takes the best two nights. i've seen sunday tracks with low car counts in all classes. not to mention lack of funds for some to race another night or day. sometimes it would be good if other tracks rained out on fri or sat or if someone doing well in ump points had a bad night but thats few and far between.
i have been trying to make it down with my car but i can't find a gear to borrow and can't see spending the money just to try the place out.i'm afraid my 6.20 or 6.50 would be too tall. how ever if they would extend the track an extra 50 to100 feet to suit my gear that would be great.:D
 
johnnypasta im glad you posted this cause i was a little confused on how they report their points, so if you have 5 Bmods that run with Amods and the top Bmod is say 5th for arguing sake. do you turn that 5th place in, or do you turn in a feature win because he beat the rest of the B mods?

also ump only takes the best points night out of the week. so you can race 7 days a week but you only get the best night. you can record 25 points nights, then you can start replacing your worst night you've had.

i hate to fredrock have low counts and struggle cause its been around a long time. but i was just mearly making a suggestion on something that could possibly help fredrock. aswell as the B-mods stay at the track.
 
hey my name is josh skaggs i run a limited mod at fredrock . I dont care if they ran us with the pro fours, a mods, purestreets, sportsman or our own class, i love to race and evan if they cancelled the class i wouldnt go anywere else i would run with the a mods as we are now. i think its cool running against your child hood heros i think the fredricktown race way is doing a great thing by letting us run with a mods. it will only make us better drivers in the long run.
 
If you are running with the a mods does that mean you can run all three compound tires are do you still go with the b mod rules just curious. Or is it consider you are an a mod just getting points as a b mod driver.thanks not trying to stir the pot just curious.thanks brian
 
HollyWood_53 said:
johnnypasta im glad you posted this cause i was a little confused on how they report their points, so if you have 5 Bmods that run with Amods and the top Bmod is say 5th for arguing sake. do you turn that 5th place in, or do you turn in a feature win because he beat the rest of the B mods?

also ump only takes the best points night out of the week. so you can race 7 days a week but you only get the best night. you can record 25 points nights, then you can start replacing your worst night you've had.

i hate to fredrock have low counts and struggle cause its been around a long time. but i was just mearly making a suggestion on something that could possibly help fredrock. aswell as the B-mods stay at the track.
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How I did my reporting last week, we had 3 B MODs running with the 12 A MODs

FEATURE
1. 11 Derek Shipman (4)
2. 15 Danny Resinger (9)
3. 71B John Bohn (14)
4. 14J Kenny Kennedy (BMOD) (12)
5. 78 Bill Long (10)
6. 42 Jeremy Parson (11)
DNF D22 Jim Brown (7)
DNF 22 Josh Skaggs (B MOD) (5)
DNF 1 Mike Francis (6)
DNF 166 Brian Worley (1)
DNF 21P Adam Parmeley (3)
DNS 6 Rick Ruch (8)
DNS 2N Leo Keifer (2)
DNS 97 Nathan Gibson (B MOD) (13)
DNS 9W Doug Wood (15)

I am going to try and explain this clearly, maybe its kinda confusing... but for track points it benefited most all racers.

I pulled the 3 B MODs out as they finished with the A MODS and placed them in the B MOD bracket for their points. So 14J recorded a 1st place B Mod finish for 60 track points, the 22 scored a 2nd place B Mod finish for 53 track points, the 97 recorded a DNS in the feature.

Now for the A MODS...
Remember the 14J B MOD finished the feature in 4th, he was pulled out and placed in the B MOD bracket. The A Mod field was shifted up to fill that opened spot in the A MOD class... So the 78 actually finish in the 5th position, was moved up to 4th in the A MOD bracket and recorded 43 track points for a 4th place finish at the track. Same thing for those that finished behind the 22 B MOD once he was pulled and moved to the B MOD bracket the A Mod drivers were moved up to fill that spot of the 22 B MOD.

UMP REPORTING:
As for UMP reporting I reported the A MODs based on the A MOD class finish and B / Limited Mods were reported as UMP Limited Mods. The one thing to remember is that there were 3 Limited Mods and 12 A Mods.
So there was an adjustment by UMP in points on the Limited Mods.

Hope this is clear... :)
 
HollyWood_53 said:
johnnypasta im glad you posted this cause i was a little confused on how they report their points, so if you have 5 Bmods that run with Amods and the top Bmod is say 5th for arguing sake. do you turn that 5th place in, or do you turn in a feature win because he beat the rest of the B mods?

also ump only takes the best points night out of the week. so you can race 7 days a week but you only get the best night. you can record 25 points nights, then you can start replacing your worst night you've had.

i hate to fredrock have low counts and struggle cause its been around a long time. but i was just mearly making a suggestion on something that could possibly help fredrock. aswell as the B-mods stay at the track.
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UMP counts evey race you run up to 30 for a mods and 25 for b mods, after you reach the max you can replace your bad nights with better nights. http://www.umpracing.com/~/media/60AC22BEE89844CEA7DD57A6D77F5F5C.ashx
 
like i said , it is between the track and the drivers, no -one looks like they are being messed over;)
 
mopar i still run an A compond tire on all four, i think is is more cost effitiont to do so. in my oppion i think that ump should look at this like lake ozark track did and inforce the A compond rule. i think i speak for some when i say we all work for a living and d compound tires just burn up in less than a night at a 100+ dollers it dont take long to see witch tire make since to me to run every night. We're all grass ruits racers here, were not nascar.
 
Question

I'm new to this ump stuff. So how can a Bmod get ump points when they dont runa Bmod race? Wouldnt you get get Amod points, cause your running in a Amod race?
 
Fireball, I hope your attitude is contagious....we need more racers like you to infect all of us on what is the most important, doing something you love and just having fun doing it, as long as you dont go broke! Keep having fun I look forward to racing with you!
 
You should be ok with you'r 6.50 gear thats what I have in my car and it's worked prettty good for me. rpm peak so for around 6,600.
 
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