NASCAR hands Long, crew chief record penalties

He was probably hoping to blow her up after the checkered flag like good ol DW did years ago.
 
The engine that was found illegal was one that he was using in practice on friday. Was it prior to qualifying or after qualifying? Why would he get a penalty before qualifying. He never tried to qualify with the illegal engine. I know he probly was going to try and qualify with the illegal one but he had not made it that far yet. I guess you cant have an illegal engine on the premises.
 
In essence, this all but put Long out of the NASCAR business. He seems like a guy that truly loves the sport.
 
Cheating is cheating no matter how you look at it. We all work the rule book to get that edge but to know you did something like he/his team did is no question wrong. It's one thing to get beat by another driver but to cheat to do so...well it's part of the game I guess. If your willing to loose your points and the cash then I guess your just that dum. I say keep taking there points away, the rich don't care about the money, they have more.
 
Nascar makes no bones about their rules what so ever. It was stupid for him to even have it there, no matter what his intent was or wasn't.
 
I don't agree with cheating and do think there should be punishment for All who cheat. I also don't agree with "Nascar makes no bones about the rules" Maybe this rule, but there are alot of gray areas in some Nascar rules. Far from "No bones about it"
 
Name a gray area????? When you get $200,000 penalties there is no gray area. Anyone who has went through tech at a nascar race knows what they are gonna go through at the next race. This isn't your local dirt track where you might sway a tech man a rule is wrote in a way you can take in different ways. I haven't heard of a rules violation in nascar in recent times, that even I wouldn't have known was a violation.
 
Dale Jr. racing NASCAR there's ya a rules violation. The boy just can't seem to get it together.:eek::D Just kidding that boy is having some bad luck.
 
it was 358.17 cid.there is a statement on jayski.com from him about it.penalty seems a bit excessive.
 
PITDRIFTER said:
Name a gray area????? When you get $200,000 penalties there is no gray area. Anyone who has went through tech at a nascar race knows what they are gonna go through at the next race. This isn't your local dirt track where you might sway a tech man a rule is wrote in a way you can take in different ways. I haven't heard of a rules violation in nascar in recent times, that even I wouldn't have known was a violation.
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Here is a gray area in a nascar rule "actions detrimental to stock car racing"
 
$200,000 for a non-points race!?!

Two questions for NASCAR:

What would you have done had a big name guy tried the same thing?

What would you have done if a big name team had done it in a points race?

My guess is that it wouldn't have been the same. Can't disappoint the fans by not having a racer like Jr., Stewart, JJ or any of the others. It just seems like too big of a penalty for a guy trying to make it on a small budget.
 
Thats freaking crazy! I just did the math and the .17 is the equvalent of the cylinder bores being less than one onethousanth (.000935 to be exact) of an inch too big. I would think ambient air temprature would change things that much or more.

If its true and acurate that thats what they found and thats what the penalites are for, NASCAR had proven themselves to be identical to the local dirt tracks that play favorites, make up BS tech rules to dq the new guy and run there "go somewhere else if you dont like it" mouths.

If a reputable engine builder built it, they should be taking the heat. If he built it himself, theres no way possible the low dollar guy is going to have the money for equipment to measure displacement that close.

Something is either missing in the story, or NASCAR needs the **** knocked out of them. One or the other
 
heck, if there measuring EVERYTHING to the gnats ***, barely over lapping the valves will change it more than .17
 
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