NOTICE TO ALL WEEKLY TRACKS and SANCTIONING BODIES

that is exactly what i read into it, it has to be a crate motor, runiing in any series, then when tehy run the national championship they are racing their crate motor against other crate motors, but could be running crates from c a r s, or fastrak, that is what i read into it. But must be a fastrak member. i agree with stan..........WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
you can read into it what you want, but what it means and what you want it to mean are two different things.

You can argue, belittle me and attempt to dismiss my point as silly, but the responsiable thing to do to protect yourself and the racers that have signed onto your series, would be to have your legal people close all the loopholes that I have pointed out.

I'm telling you if anyone from any series in the country pays their membership and weekly fees and shows up at the national championships with a crate legal car you will have to let them run under the contract as it's written, or face a civil suit, and you will lose in any court of law.
 
racer20 said:
NOTICE TO ALL WEEKLY TRACKS!!!

Fastrak Racing Series has opened up the $250,000.00 National Championship to all weekly racers and participants of other racing series. The weekly fee is only $5.00 per car. That’s it and the only requirement from your teams is to run 51% of the races at your track or in your series. 51% automatically qualifies them to come to the Nationals. 1st place at the Nationals is $50,000 cash all the way through 50th playing $500.00.

Already sanctioned with another series? Thats fine. Pay the $5.00 per car and sanction with Fastrak as well. We do not require you run 'certain tires' on a weekly basis. That is your business and no business of the series. We do offer a very lucrative program with tires but it IS NOT a requirement! We are here to help, not dictate.

. Protected Territories
. Series participation in advertising for Touring events.
. media and print advertising for Touring events..

This includes all other sanctioning bodies as well. We welcome your participation with Fastrak. We choose not to COMPETE against other series but instead "work collectively" together.

Fastrak Late Model Series is based on GM crate engines. If you track now utilizes ‘other engines’ you can still join in on the National Championship as long as the teams understand when they come to the Nationals it is GM crate engines only.

National Championship is based on a 3 day event with features all three days.

Come and enjoy the fun!!

www.fastrakracing.com

sl@fastrakracing.com

678-935-7304
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race fan too you would prbably argue with a stump. Hereis what I see here .....

paragraph 1... run 51% of races at your track or series
paragraph 3...pay $5.00 per car and the santioning fee for fastrak...
paragraph 5...fastrak is based on GM Crate engines... as long as when the teams come to the nationals it is gm crate engines only


now I am pretty darn dumb but man I think anyone could understand that.
I read it as run 51% at racetrack or series get sanctioning fee from fastrak and pay 5.00 per car, and then race a GM crate motor and you have it made.

p.s my brother is a lawyer and i sent this to him and that is basically the way he explained it to me. he used those big lawyer terms and I told him top put it in laymens terms.:confused:
 
Why would a track promoter pay an extra $5 per car? Who is gonna do this? Its already hard for them to make ends meet. Would the crate guys agree to pay an extra $5 for a pit pass in what is supposed to be a budget class? The only one who benefits is fastrack. It will help them to cover the 250,000 year end purse. Are there really a number of local guys who will run for this?
 
Fastrak Late Model Series is based on GM crate engines. If you track now utilizes ‘other engines’ you can still join in on the National Championship as long as the teams understand when they come to the Nationals it is GM crate engines only.

National Championship is based on a 3 day event with features all three days.

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Now Racer20 knows I am stupid as he!! So,I won't argue that statement with anyone!!

"The back door store":D ;) :p
 
I'm getting a little tired now.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

Understanding contracts is a big part of my business and I feel, and have pointed out, why this one is open to be exploited to the determent of the racers that have signed on to the concept of a weekend budget racing series.

Good luck to all
 
racefantoo said:
you can read into it what you want, but what it means and what you want it to mean are two different things.

You can argue, belittle me and attempt to dismiss my point as silly, but the responsiable thing to do to protect yourself and the racers that have signed onto your series, would be to have your legal people close all the loopholes that I have pointed out.

I'm telling you if anyone from any series in the country pays their membership and weekly fees and shows up at the national championships with a crate legal car you will have to let them run under the contract as it's written, or face a civil suit, and you will lose in any court of law.
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SIR. YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN A COUPLE OF VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES HERE.

1. THE TOPIC WAS ADDRESSED TO WEEKLY TRACKS AND SANCTIONING BODIES. NOT DRIVERS!

2. YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN A WEEKLY CONTRACT. THE $5.00 A CAR IS A WEEKLY FEE.

3. I ASKED YOU NICELY TO ADDRESS ME WITH YOUR NAME SINCE YOU KNOW MINE AND SO BOLDLY ADDRESS ME CONCERNING LAWSUITS.

4. IF YOU REALLY WORTHWHILE THOUGHTS CONCERNING THIS MATTER, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE FACT YOU CONTINOUSLY BRING UP THE MATTER OF LAWSUITS THEN WHY DON'T YOU CALL ME ON THE PHONE? WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO TEAR DOWN PUBLICLY WHAT I HAVE POSTED HERE? IT CERTAINLY LOOKS AS IF THIS IS A CONCERN SO CALL ME. IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN A LOT LESS TIME. TRUST ME I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CALL YOU BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR CALL.

678-935-7304

ANYONE KNOW WHO THIS GUY IS????
 
PEORIA#75FAN said:
Fastrak Late Model Series is based on GM crate engines. If you track now utilizes ‘other engines’ you can still join in on the National Championship as long as the teams understand when they come to the Nationals it is GM crate engines only.

National Championship is based on a 3 day event with features all three days.

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Now Racer20 knows I am stupid as he!! So,I won't argue that statement with anyone!!

"The back door store":D ;) :p
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I don't even know who you are much less call you stupid. Now that wouldn't be very nice would it?

There are two tracks, one in GA and one in AL that very succesfully mix crates and the 'sportsman' classes (with stock front clips. In my personal area we call them hobbies). Yes I did agree to let them mix their classes as long as they kept them even. My posting the points every week allows us to keep track of that.

This is done to the benefit of the track and the teams. it is pretty tough in some cases to take a track that has never had crates and throw out one class and begin a competely new one.

Again I refer back to my weekly contract. No one gets points without that track having a weekly contract. The weekly contract is very specific concerning these issues.

Just trying to help the tracks BUILD their local crate class and not get killed in the mean time from car count. its tough starting a brand new class. Very tough. Tracks are struggling in every part of the country. Some tracks can just make the change and do so very successfully. Others could not do it. Having a "transistional plan" is ok as long as it works for everyone.
 
prettydarndumb said:
race fan too you would prbably argue with a stump. Hereis what I see here .....

paragraph 1... run 51% of races at your track or series
paragraph 3...pay $5.00 per car and the santioning fee for fastrak...
paragraph 5...fastrak is based on GM Crate engines... as long as when the teams come to the nationals it is gm crate engines only


now I am pretty darn dumb but man I think anyone could understand that.
I read it as run 51% at racetrack or series get sanctioning fee from fastrak and pay 5.00 per car, and then race a GM crate motor and you have it made.

p.s my brother is a lawyer and i sent this to him and that is basically the way he explained it to me. he used those big lawyer terms and I told him top put it in laymens terms.:confused:
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Thank you for doing that. I really do appreciate you taking the time to do so.

In addition considering it was addressed to "tracks" not individual drivers.

The tracks still have to meet the criteria in the weekly contract.

Again;

Thanks
 
pamr54 said:
Why would a track promoter pay an extra $5 per car? Who is gonna do this? Its already hard for them to make ends meet. Would the crate guys agree to pay an extra $5 for a pit pass in what is supposed to be a budget class? The only one who benefits is fastrack. It will help them to cover the 250,000 year end purse. Are there really a number of local guys who will run for this?
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Stan, please address my questions and one more. Doesnt this hurt my chances as a fastrack member since you are adding many more racers to the year end race? Thats how I see it.
 
Racer20,
Instead of releasing press release's to announce press releases to announce press release's to announce upcoming information why not announce some schedules, dates and locations of some of these big races. It is the month of Feburary, some racers are trying to make out there schedules.

The way I see it right now you guys have 5 touring races scheduled so the way I see it a man only has to race 3 of them to get your almigthy 51% to qualify for the championship. To be held at a racetrack that has not been named and a date that has not been named YET!

The majority of Fastrak support in this area is because of the Fergusons. I think if you take them out of the picture like the RUMORS (And I mention these are just rumors I myself have heard and I am not saying they are the truth.) it will really kill your support in this area. The reason alot of the crate racers have jump on board is because of Scott and Kevin.

You have got people on this board bashing the CARS group for scheduleing races the same day's as Fastrak races. At least the CARS group has racetracks, dates, and locations announced. They are not releasing press release's they are releasing schedules.

Some of these reason's are why myself and fellow crate racer's in this area that I have talked to are not worried about your 51% and big dollar national championship (by the way has that track been announced yet) and just plan on running locally for pretty nice weekly point fund in the CARS series. Without all the hassle of figuring out your rules, regulations and 51% stuff.
 
Fastrak

I am all for what the Fastrak organization is trying to do UNTIL!!!!!! they start talking about some BIG MONEY race at a place yet to be determined or scheduled.

I want to run Fastrak actually at our local track. But we couldnt care less about some big money race where every deep pocket outfit will be there to get the 50 G or whatever it is.

You (Fastrak) should be concentrating on the little hobby / family type teams who religeously show up every weekend to race against their buddies (ok, well maybe not all of them are your buddies) and then go out for a beer afterwords. In other words the local folks who spend their hard earned money on a HOBBY! not trying to make it to Cup racing.

Like i've said before: "You've all seen how crazy people will get to win $500.00,
wait until its $ 50,000.00

I dont give a crap about that.....just give us affordable racing locally , so we can have fun.
 
Racer20

You stated that your intent was to invite other crate series racers to participate in the National Championship.

If that is your intent, then you could easily end this discussion right now by inserting in Paragraph 1 the words:

All weekly racers and participants of other Crate racing series utilizing the GM 602 or 604 crate engine.
 
Guys;

I have got my awards banquet Sat for the regions here so I have to go get that done. I'll check back next week.

Looks like some of us are going to disagree on this issue. Hey its Amercia. We all have our right to our opinion.

I'll be in town Friday the 24th if anyone wants to sit down and chat.

Good luck and be safe until then.
 
Racer 20

Your refusal to add clarity to this issue so as to leave no doubt as to your intent, and taking the oppertunity to show your allegence to the crate concept and the racers that have paid their money and come on board to support your series causes me to feel that what I have been describing in great detail was and is in fact your real intent.

Like another on here said, it's already Febuary and everything is still up in the air, and now you state that you won't be addressing this or any other issue until the end of Feb. with the racing season starting March.

For a person that says they are comitted to the crate (weekend) racer, your conduct and actions fail to convince me of that comitment.

While I remain in support of the crate racing concept, your right, it is America and we are free to deceide for ourselves which crate racing series we will support and you will have to find someone dumber than me to support the Fastrak series.
 
racefantoo said:
Racer20

You stated that your intent was to invite other crate series racers to participate in the National Championship.

If that is your intent, then you could easily end this discussion right now by inserting in Paragraph 1 the words:

All weekly racers and participants of other Crate racing series utilizing the GM 602 or 604 crate engine.
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DUH!!!!!! isn't the GM crate motor 602 or 604??
 
jumpinjack1dw said:
DUH!!!!!! isn't the GM crate motor 602 or 604??
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DUH!!!!! There are at least 6 other GM "Crate" engine's some are quite a bit stouter then the 602 and 604
 
racefantoo said:
Racer 20

Your refusal to add clarity to this issue so as to leave no doubt as to your intent, and taking the oppertunity to show your allegence to the crate concept and the racers that have paid their money and come on board to support your series causes me to feel that what I have been describing in great detail was and is in fact your real intent.

Like another on here said, it's already Febuary and everything is still up in the air, and now you state that you won't be addressing this or any other issue until the end of Feb. with the racing season starting March.

For a person that says they are comitted to the crate (weekend) racer, your conduct and actions fail to convince me of that comitment.

While I remain in support of the crate racing concept, your right, it is America and we are free to deceide for ourselves which crate racing series we will support and you will have to find someone dumber than me to support the Fastrak series.
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Sir;

As your only intent is no doubt to discredit everything and anything and even the way I say things you obviously have malicious intents in discrediting me, and slandering my name and that of the series.

Again as you try and question my crediblity about crate racing when I am in fact the one that started the crate racing touring committment entirely. My credbility lies within our track record of doing what we say and in every instance. I think my $300,000.00 investment in "weekly racers" and crate engines speaks for itself.

As you continue to quesiton my credibility and lead into false statements as you demand over and over answers to your questions when you will not answer the most simple of all quesitons, who are you? The only credibility quesitoned here is yours by hiding behind a screen name instead of fessing up. That being the case I have had no choice but to research who you are and after doing so now understand your intentions of discrediting us and why.

I have given you my phone numbers and you also refuse to call. Why would any intelligent human being continue to hash out a no win situation with someone that has no more interest other than discrediting you in the first place?

You do not want answers, you want to start an argument plain and simple. If you really wanted answers then I would have to assume since you have an internet connection you also have a phone. That of course would be too simple of a solution.

I must say I never ceased to be amazed at the tactics of some people. One day I hope we are more intelligent than that and finally learn that in working together we are all stronger.

Thanks to all the people that have called in the last couple of days supporting me, the Fergusons and the Series. I sincerely appreciate you. It was a very nice surprise of how many people actually did call. If there was some clarification needed it made it very simple that way.

This is the end of the conversation.
 
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