OFF TOPIC: Maybe there is hope for this world afterall

dirt hound said:
and what does the dept of energy just like most of them in govt collewct a check and nothing its ok to set a six mo0nth moratoruim but it not ok to regulate the industry in the first place wth??? wake up it caught the whole industry with its pants down
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So am I really hearing you say that you want to government to tighten regulations.

CAREFUL HOUND, YOUR FLIRTING WITH BECOMING A SOCIALIST.

And how does BP's irresponsibility "catch the industry with its pants down"? They chose not to fix faulty equipment which caused the whole catastrophy.
 
dirt hound said:
there is something called projections but wait a second whenther elections were going on everyone said 7-10 years nown its 2 years which is it
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I couldn't tell you for sure. I only know that they said it took 2 years to build Horizon.
 
kingeddy said:
So am I really hearing you say that you want to government to tighten regulations.

CAREFUL HOUND, YOUR FLIRTING WITH BECOMING A SOCIALIST.

And how does BP's irresponsibility "catch the industry with its pants down"? They chose not to fix faulty equipment which caused the whole catastrophy.
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there is safety regulations for your chicken there is safety inspections for your car or house etc so why not the oil industry
 
Hound, I don't know that there aren't safety regulations. I don't know that there aren't inspectors visting these rigs.

DO YOU? If so, please give me some supporting evidence to document that it is/has not been happening.
 
if there was she should be responible and fired some companies cut corners (bp) its the inspectors jobs to keep things safe I would say they the inspectors didn't do their job wouldn't you
 
dirt hound said:
if there was she should be responible and fired some companies cut corners (bp) its the inspectors jobs to keep things safe I would say they the inspectors didn't do their job wouldn't you
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I have to totally disagree with this statement.

The County Health Department inspects my restaraunts once every three months. There are strict regulations and rules that I must adhere to. One of them is to store and hold raw foods at a safe temperature.

Raw chicken is supposed to be held at less than 40*F (Industry Standard). Although the CHD checks those temperatures each visit, It is my daily responsibility to make sure the cooler is cooling properly, and to check the temperatures of each case of chicken. If something is wrong, it is my responsibility to fix the problem and throw away any chicken that has not been held below 40*F.

If I choose not to throw that chicken away and cook and serve it anyway, someone will become ill as a result. If that person develops salmonella or e-coli and is hospitalized or even worse dies, I am responsible and subject to a law suit.

I have never heard of a health department being sued. Have you? Remember several years ago when Jack in the Box had an outbreak of e-coli from serving undercooked hamburgers? Who was sued? The CHD or Jack?

So explain to me how an oil rig inspector could possibly be to blame (even partially) for BP choosing not replacing a broken gasket, and a faulty blowout preventer?

An inspectors job is to inspect and advise, not to fix or repair problems. They cannot be there 24 hrs a day 7 days/wk. That gasket could have been damaged 15 minutes after he inspected. BP chose not to fix a problem they knew about, and it bit them in the azz. They should pay.

BTW/FYI it is the Department of Interior that regulates and oversees offshore drilling. Not the Energy Department.
 
kingeddy said:
I have to totally disagree with this statement.

The County Health Department inspects my restaraunts once every three months. There are strict regulations and rules that I must adhere to. One of them is to store and hold raw foods at a safe temperature.

Raw chicken is supposed to be held at less than 40*F (Industry Standard). Although the CHD checks those temperatures each visit, It is my daily responsibility to make sure the cooler is cooling properly, and to check the temperatures of each case of chicken. If something is wrong, it is my responsibility to fix the problem and throw away any chicken that has not been held below 40*F.

If I choose not to throw that chicken away and cook and serve it anyway, someone will become ill as a result. If that person develops salmonella or e-coli and is hospitalized or even worse dies, I am responsible and subject to a law suit. I have never heard of a health department being sued.
Have you? Remember several years ago when Jack in the Box had an outbreak of e-coli from serving undercooked hamburgers? Who was sued? The CHD or Jack?

So explain to me how an oil rig inspector could possibly be to blame (even partially) for BP choosing not replacing a broken gasket, and a faulty blowout preventer?

An inspectors job is to inspect and advise, not to fix or repair problems. They cannot be there 24 hrs a day 7 days/wk. That gasket could have been damaged 15 minutes after he inspected. BP chose not to fix a problem they knew about, and it bit them in the azz. They should pay.
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no john q public will get screwed
 
dirt hound said:
no john q public will get screwed
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How? BP cannot set prices.

I understand your logic. You believe BP will just halt production out of anger in an attempt to push the price of LSC up.

Do you think amid all the bad publicity, all the anger directed at BP from US citizens, let alone all the government scrutiny they are under that they could possibly get away with something like this? Or even attempt it?

Highly doubtful. First of all, I'm sure the SEC would have something to say about it. Secondly, BP's public image is already in shambles. Boyycott BP signs are popping up everywhere already. If they pulled a trick like that, I'm sure their retails sales would plument. Do you really think that they are such bad business people that they would make matters worse for themselves.
 
God I swear Dirthound I have read your posts for years and you are one mis-informed person and it only gets worse as the years go by. And what cracks me up is you make yourself look more and more of an idiot with each post you make and you don't seem to realize it. People can throw facts in your face all day long and it has no effect on your comments. You are truly unbelievable man.

I vote CLUELESS!
 
dirthound shut up you will never win agenst the king. Never have and never will. Pay the F'n price of gas and move on or walk. Crap happens, Take all your cut and past crap to the white house and stick it there. nothing we can do about it on here so just pray it gets fixed soon.
 
bryanracing55 said:
dirthound shut up you will never win agenst the king. Never have and never will. Pay the F'n price of gas and move on or walk. Crap happens, Take all your cut and past crap to the white house and stick it there. nothing we can do about it on here so just pray it gets fixed soon.
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yoor right what was I thinking there is no help for liberal see I was nice lol
 
Its not about winning or loosing an argument Kent. Its about being man enough to admit when your wrong and realizing that you have no clue what your talking about, and then shutting up.

And Hound, I am not as big a democrat and liberal as you think. I'm closer to a mildly to moderately conservative democrat, who is sickend by the total hypocrisy and double standards of the so-called christian conservative repubicans. They make me wanna puke everytime one speaks.
 
to tell you the truth king eddy both parties ain't worthchit they are one and the same they blame a supplier that has no real ties to this country yet with unempployment running like ti you would think they could find enough inspecters but no
 
I know king but some of us are keeping score:eek: Just kidding. I have been trying to tell him he will never win an agruement with you. I have tryed:mad::cool::D
 
dirt hound said:
to tell you the truth king eddy both parties ain't worthchit they are one and the same
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I'll agree with this part of your statement. (WOW, we actually agreed on something)

However, what good are inspectors if the company executives refuse to replace faulty parts and are willing to play russian roulette at the cost of saving time and money?

What good are inspectors if they are accepting gifts and allowing BP personell to fill out (in pencil) the inspection forms and then re-writing in ink the final copy before signing their name?

What good are inspectors if they cannot inspect a blowout preventer that is located nearly a mile deep in the ocean? What good are inspectors if they have documents reporting a damaged Annular Gasket hidden from them?

BP is to blame. It was their bribes, lies, greed and haste that caused this mess. No one elses fault but their own. Jesus Christ himself could have been inspecting that rig, and BP would still have cut corners to save time and money. That is their Modus operandi. Its pretty well documented that their safety record is not stellar. If I read correctly they have had 268 violations reported against them, compared to 6 for the rest of the industry.

Whats even more sickening is the commercials they are now running on TV. Saw one yesterday during the US Open, I almost threw my margarita glass at the TV. And even they are coming very close to admitting their guilt. The commercial end with the words, "we will do everything we can to make things right."
 
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