Tire Testing?

Hound know what your talking about before you open your pie hole! I stick up for a class that week after week continues to get crapped on and its very obvious they treat them as a support class and 90% of the time dont even get treated as a support class!! The pro-4's have more special shows every year than the street stocks and thats the most cheated up class out there and is in all honesty the true support class but yet the street stocks continue to get crapped on!! So again know what your talking about MORON!!!
 
I don't post on an open forum much anymore but I'll give this one a try. Bobby getting away with a 20 on the LR when no one else could and also wins the race could be just that they nailed the setup too. You can be softer on tires when you don't have the wheel slip and shear from a car that isn't working properly. Just playing devils advocate on that theory. As far as what I really think and know, prepping is as wide spread as it ever has been.
 
faustfan2 said:
Hound know what your talking about before you open your pie hole! I stick up for a class that week after week continues to get crapped on and its very obvious they treat them as a support class and 90% of the time dont even get treated as a support class!! The pro-4's have more special shows every year than the street stocks and thats the most cheated up class out there and is in all honesty the true support class but yet the street stocks continue to get crapped on!! So again know what your talking about MORON!!!
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neither classes should get special shows late models sprints midgets a mods the rest are just that support classes sorry thats the way I see it if you don't like it too bad
 
KynetixSolutions said:
I don't post on an open forum much anymore but I'll give this one a try. Bobby getting away with a 20 on the LR when no one else could and also wins the race could be just that they nailed the setup too. You can be softer on tires when you don't have the wheel slip and shear from a car that isn't working properly. Just playing devils advocate on that theory. As far as what I really think and know, prepping is as wide spread as it ever has been.
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And from a number of racers they call BS on your answer but nice try except for your comment on prepping. Those doing it and participating in are killing the sport.
 
Remember a couple years ago at Pevely when Shepp put on a complete butt whooping on 4 20's when the track was black slick? He did that because he setup his car to go where nowhere else could and he made it work so well that he darn near lapped the field. I'm not saying that this is what Bobby did but it could be? He's rolling right now and they've obviously found something other than just tires, if that's what they're doing at all. Just playing devils advocate on all this is all.
 
imagine that oh thats right it computerized shocks funnt think is who running the computer moonflow
 
Tire prep is not ruining the sport. 20-30k engines are. From what I've read and seen, tire prep doesn't make the cars substantially faster than if the tires were just fresh and prepared well. ( scuffed, grooved, siped and lathed) The guys I know that use it do so because it makes tires LAST three times as long.
 
KynetixSolutions said:
Remember a couple years ago at Pevely when Shepp put on a complete butt whooping on 4 20's when the track was black slick? He did that because he setup his car to go where nowhere else could and he made it work so well that he darn near lapped the field. I'm not saying that this is what Bobby did but it could be? He's rolling right now and they've obviously found something other than just tires, if that's what they're doing at all. Just playing devils advocate on all this is all.
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He did that because the extreme bottom was still moist. Stop trying to justify something that we all know is cheating. No moist track at TriCity and no other driver ran a 20!
 
Hard Lefts said:
Tire prep is not ruining the sport. 20-30k engines are. From what I've read and seen, tire prep doesn't make the cars substantially faster than if the tires were just fresh and prepared well. ( scuffed, grooved, siped and lathed) The guys I know that use it do so because it makes tires LAST three times as long.
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Funny how the guys who use tire prep win with it but tell you it's to save tire wear. It saves tire wear alright and allows you to run a twenty when no one else can. UMP can catch this if they choose. Just like traction control....they choose to ignore it.

Twenty cars for the i55 race..keep this up. You tire cheaters will have no one to race against.
 
Kreke I'm not trying to justify it, because I don't have to. Obviously the teams feel it's worth the price of admission and that's not up to you, me or the next guy, that's up to the sanctions to decide. My company does not sell tire prep anymore but I guarantee if you look at my Facebook page and see the cars I have there and have built, they are on tires I'm preparing, and that includes the chemical aspect that I choose to keep in house now instead of sell.

I will break some prices down for you though, you're a smart guy. My cars are mostly Bloomquist that I house and build, I have all Roush/Yates motors that are being switched to Jay Dickens as they lap out. Let's start putting some numbers on that, even just one car race ready, I'll be generous for the consumer and call it 50k. The most expensive prep I know of on the market today is $215 per gallon and it's safer than 99% of any household product today. So please please please tell me where that is killing the sport other than "well everybody has to do it to then to keep up" because you aren't going to stop it so those other racers, yeah they need to jump on board just like making a chassis change or getting a better set of shocks.

At the end of the day tire prep really does save the racer money, I've been trying to drill that into the Stl area for years. Maybe now that I don't live there, I don't sell prep and have nothing to gain by it then maybe you'll believe it. There more than just performance gain with the chemical aspect, but that performance gain will take a top 5 car over the top with some good consulting.
 
kreke13 said:
He did that because the extreme bottom was still moist. Stop trying to justify something that we all know is cheating. No moist track at TriCity and no other driver ran a 20!
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You are correct and he setup his car correctly. You think Bobby may have done the same and knowing took car of that 20? It seems to me that you are opening calling the kid, actually adult now, a cheater. You I've still got a list of every person I've ever sold prep to, that list also includes the ones Eric told me about too. You know who's name is on that Red Hot and Undetectable list from several years back? You know before Bobby was in super late models.
 
Kuhn tried several years ago to police it and what did he get out of it a lawsuit so why would local tracks try to police it there will be a jailhouse lawyer to get the guy out of any trouble with some bs like a "contaminated cutter"!!!!
 
If you haven't noticed the one guy that was caught hasn't ran the same since and was one of the fastest guys on the track at the time!
 
KynetixSolutions said:
You are correct and he setup his car correctly. You think Bobby may have done the same and knowing took car of that 20? It seems to me that you are opening calling the kid, actually adult now, a cheater. You I've still got a list of every person I've ever sold prep to, that list also includes the ones Eric told me about too. You know who's name is on that Red Hot and Undetectable list from several years back? You know before Bobby was in super late models.
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LOL.

The $30k engines and high dollar shocks are not the blame, but the $200 a year someone is spending on prep is? LOL
 
Totally agree with springer on this. Maybe everyone else needs to step there game up. Last year everyone was complaining about his slide jobs. Now this year it's his tires. This kid has got talent and no one likes a young kid coming in and beating everybody.
 
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