To many yellow flags,,Promoters need to read this article!

ALCOHOL

ALCOHOL

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Will Your Starter Work For You or the Drivers?
March 26th, 2012 | Author: Stewart Doty

Think back to last season. Did you have more than one or two one-car spins any race night? If you did, you must ask yourself whether your starter works for you or for the drivers. Since hard tires and competition parity became common, too many shows have too many spinouts, caused either by drivers’ unnecessary abandon, or by drivers’ desire to draw a yellow to improve track position. The reason for the yellow doesn’t matter as much as the damage done to the show. Drivers will spin until they are made to stop and when they spin too much, fans lose patience and stay away from the track. This season, work with your starter, and with drivers. Tell your starter, corner workers, and drivers that you will not tolerate unnecessary spins or the overuse of yellow flags. Establish a so-called “no-spin” or “no-stop” rule to discourage over-exuberant drivers, or those who use the solo spinout as a track position strategy.
 
ALCOHOL said:
Will Your Starter Work For You or the Drivers?
March 26th, 2012 | Author: Stewart Doty

Drivers will spin until they are made to stop and when they spin too much, fans lose patience and stay away from the track. .
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How true!! JMO and mine only but I firmly believe in spin and your in!
 
Every driver has done this at one time or another. Its a good thing when its the driver you root for & sux if you don't.
 
Just a part of the sport, almost any racer has stopped once to bring a yellow to catch the field. If you don't your night is done, if you do, you get a chance to pass somebody. Most tracks, and all should have a 1 min per lap time rule and have a 2 spin your parked rule.

If you make it one spin or stop then you will have some drivers bonzi through crashes to keep from being a car that stopped. Let them have one, keep the field on the time rule and races will get over, drivers will learn that constant cautions either get them parked or the race over so no chance to better position.
 
It's not about running the time limit or letting the spinner get their 2 yellows. It's about a timely, entertaining show for the fans. Stopping to avoid a crash is not a spin and shouldn't be an "in".
 
At the IMCA Super Nationals in Boone IA you spin in your heat race and cause a yellow your done... no ifs ands or buts. Guess what... it don't happen very often and I guarantee you don't do it on purpose.
 
My opinion and this coming from a former actual racer..........you should be allowed one spin. 2 spins....kind of overdoing it. I have spun by going too fast..........hitting oil or coolant or fuel ect and so on. It happens. You should not punish a driver for 1 spin. 2 times........well if you didnt learn the first time maybe you should work on the car to make it push more. Also........causing a yellow on purpose should be booted for the night. No exceptions. Ive seen this a whole lot more this year and its getting worse. Bob Wente told us alot of times.......your hear to put on a show and not to race. He is right. Stink up the show and the track hurts as a whole. If a driver has alot of episodes of spinning or causing wrecks.......its the officials job to go have a chat with him. Several street stock drivers come to my mind right now that every week are involved in episodes. Its hard to see it week in and week out same car causing wrecks or spining out. And i can see why promoters do need to put the hammer down.
 
It's funny someone posted this..... Me and another guy were just discussing how it seems this year the "yellows" are up.
Some things that really get under my skin are the "I didn't get a good start so my motor just happened to die on the first lap"......."Oh I get my spot back because it was the first lap"....... Another is when the racing is awesome up front.. Passes back and forth.. one guy high, and one guy low.......Ooops some one running last or close to it spins ruining the great racing up front......
 
I disagree with spot back and with the opening lap not counting against your 2 yellows. Anytime you bring out a yellow should be to the tail, also a spin or stop on the first lap should count for toward your two yellow rule.
 
I Promote 2 tracks, Clay County Spedway in Flora IL and Chandler Motor Speedway in Chandler IN, I started and let drivers know in drivers meeting several times, yellow flag you go to tail whether lap 1, 2, 5 or any lap. This has brought the drivers that had a bad start somethingt \o think about, keep going or go to tail. Yes I have had a few complaints about total restart but it is fair game for all, and it has helped on starts of a race, knowing if they drive over their head and can not hold it they will go to the tail even if it is lap 1.............how many times have we heard you can not win a race on lap 1?
YELLOW FLAG GOING TO TAIL NO MATTER WHAT LAP!
kevin bayer clay county and chandler motor speedway promoter!
 
U wan't to see less cautions let's start by putting water on the track, promoters know what there doing people in the stands like to see wrecks very dry slick track make for more wrecks, tore up race cars make for happy fans..And if I blow my tires off on the first start heck yeah im gonna do it,. but ur all ways have your non drivers at what ever track u got to..CANT STOP IT ALL
 
ExtremeRaceCars said:
At the IMCA Super Nationals in Boone IA you spin in your heat race and cause a yellow your done... no ifs ands or buts. Guess what... it don't happen very often and I guarantee you don't do it on purpose.
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Quincy, IL is doing this during their weekly programs and it has greatly improved the program. Hopefully, more tracks will start doing this.
 
racingkid1 said:
U wan't to see less cautions let's start by putting water on the track, promoters know what there doing people in the stands like to see wrecks very dry slick track make for more wrecks, tore up race cars make for happy fans..And if I blow my tires off on the first start heck yeah im gonna do it,. but ur all ways have your non drivers at what ever track u got to..CANT STOP IT ALL
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I promise you this... if you have a "one spin your done" rule it will also fix the non drivers, they will get their stuff figured out or they will quit.
 
I agree with going to the tail no matter what lap it is even the 1st. I can go with the 1 spin in rule to, or at least a 1 spin you're in during the feature which seems to be when the majority of cautions happen. I also like the rule of 1 chance to start the race like TCS has. If the front row doesn't get it right make them the 2nd row and vica versa. I have raced and am not for ruining a racers night or anything. But the racer shouldn't be for ruining the show for others either.
 
Quincy, IL also has the stupidist yellow flag rule that I have ever heard of. Are you all ready to hear this.....if 5 or more cars are involved in a wreck, all 5 cars get their spots back. Even the car who caused the pileup. How in the world did this rule ever come into effect??
 
While slightly off topic....

Racers who insist on gassing the car to keep from stopping completely even when completely facing the wrong way are tearing up race cars too. It's much easier to drive around a spun car then drive around a car still moving. The level of anticipation is much greater overall. It's got me twice this year and I've witnessed it several more. I agree it's best to not spin at all then get a mulligan.
 
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