I think that right now would be a good time to ask yourselves what the hell you are doing. Name calling, bickering, and just plain lude behaviour is not called for I work with misfits that have better manners and people skills. You can have a discussion with out this crap. I have raced mini's for the last 8 years atleast and have a ball doing it. Yes you can get a lot of money tied up into them. THey are race cars. I think if someone is cheating you guys have 10 cars on average that means that is half wanted to see than you could put up 100 and see. I also think that if someone is caught that they should have all the points up to that point revoked. Bobby