What track will pick up sportsmans on friday's?

racin90

racin90

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With Belleville not looking so good for next year there is a huge opportunity for a track around here to pick this class up which was once called a dying class but averages 20 plus weekly at Pevely. Since Highland dropped them there are some cars sitting waiting for someone to run them around here if the pay can be reasonable. I realize most tracks are tapped and full of their current schedule. But i was thinking its a win win deal for someone to pick it up. Just food for thought.
 
Would love to see Tri city run them more often...but the count they will have over Belleville closing is going to really put a damper on time! Its a shame its came to this but it should really put a hell of a crowd and car count there!
 
Steve Jimmy had me in solitary confinement for acouple months.Jimmy D thats a long haul for the cars from this area! Does Brownstown run em every week?
 
I would combine both Sportsman and Street Stocks into 1 class, It can be done....and then that 20 car count would maybe be 30 plus each night and give them cars 2 very nice tracks to put on a show with Pevely and Tri City
 
I agree with mudface. Make it all one class and be done with it. We don't need any more classes of cars - makes the night go too long....
 
I won't say his name, but I had a discussion with a legendary race promoter (not a promoter from the St. Louis area) earlier this year and we discussed a lot of things about the state of racing currently. Once of his biggest issues as he put it, "There are just too damn many different classes now days, which has drivers thinned out".. He even said the modified class should go.. Most of them are spending more money than what a late model should be costing to run, he said.

He said there should be three classes, a sprint car, a late model and a stock car.
 
jdearing said:
I won't say his name, but I had a discussion with a legendary race promoter (not a promoter from the St. Louis area) earlier this year and we discussed a lot of things about the state of racing currently. Once of his biggest issues as he put it, "There are just too damn many different classes now days, which has drivers thinned out".. He even said the modified class should go.. Most of them are spending more money than what a late model should be costing to run, he said.

He said there should be three classes, a sprint car, a late model and a stock car.
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Totally agree Jimmy. Even a little town like Jacksonville with Springfield nearby there are hundreds of racers and hundreds of race cars within 60 miles. It's just that there are too many different kinds of race cars. I could be wrong, but I swear when my dad ran this place when I was a kid in the 70's we ran two classes: Late Models and Hobby Stocks. Almost all of the racers were local.

Just today I started a big facebook discussion about finding a few common classes of cars that people could come together and race. It might take creating a new class as a middle ground. I've said many times that I would like to get 20-30 of our local drivers that drive 5 different kind of cars locked in a room and say "you guys tell me what kind of car you all would race against each other that costs $10,000 or less and we will race it."

I think I harped on here about this a few months ago... but everyone finds their own niche where they feel they can be competitive and have success. That's understandable, but I want races with 25 cars and the best drivers that live nearby and have a fan following in an affordable, fun to watch class where its and accomplishment to fight your way to a 7th place finish against a talented field. Fans would pay to watch that week after week if the drivers were local... and as a result pretty soon the payout would get better too.
 
mudface said:
I would combine both Sportsman and Street Stocks into 1 class, It can be done....and then that 20 car count would maybe be 30 plus each night and give them cars 2 very nice tracks to put on a show with Pevely and Tri City
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Why ruin the street stock class leave it alone. Sportsman started as street stocks and you see where that lead to.I hope this never happens.
 
was a kid in the 70's we ran two classes: Late Models and Hobby Stocks. Almost all of the racers were local. it started before dang nab it showing my age and the tracks were packed and the fast cars started on the tail
 
jdearing said:
I won't say his name, but I had a discussion with a legendary race promoter (not a promoter from the St. Louis area) earlier this year and we discussed a lot of things about the state of racing currently. Once of his biggest issues as he put it, "There are just too damn many different classes now days, which has drivers thinned out".. He even said the modified class should go.. Most of them are spending more money than what a late model should be costing to run, he said.

He said there should be three classes, a sprint car, a late model and a stock car.
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O i totally agree but one huge problem. If you did combine the classes which too much griping would happen and probably make some mad or go elsewhere.......you would no long have a UMP street stock class.........nor a UMP sportsman class. you would have a class that is not sanctioned according to UMP rules...........which is kind of why ive said for awhile....maybe in some deals push UMP to the wayside and do what is best for the tracks......not for the sanction. I know it would hit some higher ups and probably leave a black eye but in todays world its a give or take deal. UMP has had years to do something with these 2 classes. It should have been done years ago. 3/4 of the street stocks out there now are what we ran as sportsman years ago. What....give them a holley carb...........weight jacks and your damn close to a sportsman class anyway..persay. Already letting them run sheet metal bodies racing pedals and setting the cages back to get rear percentage. Just a thought.....but then you would have alot of cars just in one class.
 
Lap times when the sportsman ran was 17-18's. Street stocks are in the 19-20's. Really close in lap times. Weight is probably the biggest deal there. Plus Sportsman run bigger motors better carbs. Be interesting to see if you put a 2 bbl on a street stock let them lighten it up and see how much it changes it. Heck maybe let them run a 4bbl compared to a 2 bbl sportsman rule. But then you would still have a class that isnt in one or the others set of rules
 
SEEMS TO ME THE ONLY CLASS NOT BEING MENTIONED IS THE 4 CYLINDER CARS WHICH I PERSONALLY FIND AS A WASTE OF TIME THESE CARS ARE A DANGER LIABILITY BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING TO WELD A CAGE TO ARE UNSAFE I OWN AND DRIVE A SPORTSMAN CAR AND CANT FIND A LOCAL TRACK TO RACE ON WILL HAVE TO TOW ALL THE WAY TO PEVELY WHEN I WANNA RACE WOULD LOVE TO SEE A LOCAL TRACK RUN SPORTMAN CARS AGAIN WHITH ENGINE LIMITATIONS THESE CARS ARE AFFORDABLE
 
turn left said:
Why ruin the street stock class leave it alone. Sportsman started as street stocks and you see where that lead to.I hope this never happens.
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The Sportsman is nothing more then a Super Street Stock imo , I don't care for the engine rule in them right now but change that and you have what I would call a 2013 street stock
 
Late model
Crate late
Amod
Bmod
Street stock and all tracks could run four of these full time and alternate a week off for each. Jmo
 
dirtboy said:
Would love to see Tri city run them more often...but the count they will have over Belleville closing is going to really put a damper on time! Its a shame its came to this but it should really put a hell of a crowd and car count there!
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Yikes! Good thing I didn't post that...

Alternating classes weekly around here could really put a damper (sorry for the pun) on one of the classes because of rain outs. In California that works pretty well because 1/2 season could be around 10-12 nights. Plus tracks worked together and offered split seasons.

Lots of classes make for lots of winners. That may be fun for drivers, but not for spectators, and also classes that look the same. LM/sportsman, Amod/Bmod. Years ago I used to get hand-me-down issues of RPM same then, same now. How to keep classes that start out cheap and stop them from morphing into more and more cost to stay competitive. Example, front runner Pro4 engines sure don't sound like salvage yard engines anymore. Everyone knows this, level playing field = more cars. My old sage promoter friend used to say, "never let the drivers/owners decide the rules, it will always get more expensive."
 
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