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They had an affordable class a few years ago called "Hornets",,,But tracks let rules get out hand...I agree! Need an affodable starter class!
Racers don't necessarily kill off entry level classes, though I get what you're driving at. I think promoters kill them off catering to the racers who have cash.
If there was a claim rule in effect for the hornet class, say $750 gets you the car minus seat, belts and net and the track promoter claimed any car that won 2 features and sold it for $750 to anyone who had never raced before, how much do you think guys would spend to race in that class? I bet it would be less than $750.
There are creative ways to keep costs in check for an "affordable" starter class and get more people to compete.
You could do the same with other classes too, provided the promoter has the money to do it. Say claim a b-mod engine for a certain amount equivalent to a run of the mill b-mod engine to encourage people to work on setup more than buying or cheating for horsepower.
The crate deal for LM was supposed to be a $5000 engine package, race it till it's dead then sell it to a hot rodder and buy another new one. That went straight in the crapper as soon as the first sanction decided they could make more money for themselves by "certifying" a rebuilder (for a cash payment to the sanctioning body, of course) and letting racers rebuild them. UMP said whatever, but "if we tear you down and you are illegal".... Then rarely tore anyone down, not enough to deter anyone. In any case, there was so much that could be done legally to the crate to make it a premier crate engine over a box stock one and stay legal that again, money won. But there were ways to keep the engines box stock, and it wasn't the racers who allowed rebuilds to start. That was all down to the promoters, and you reap what you sow.
Anyway, my point is racers will always spend money to go faster, unless that money isn't going to stay in their own car. So find ways to discourage spending money in the starter classes instead of caving in to guys waving dollar bills and you will probably see a class that will grow and thrive for years instead of sprouting like a dandelion on acid and wilting away to nothing in no time.
you are right them guys do some good side by side race jimmy dearing you are wrong about a-mod/b-mod not putting butts in the stands we might find out next yr. at Pevely!!!Ive seen some close racing in the b mods at tri city. Actually with the smaller carb and less horses going to the tires they race alot cleaner and side by side
Another deal is gm isnt making repo parts for them anymore. So if one gets rebuilt it will have aftermarket parts in it. See where this is going? Cam crank ect Let the fun beginTodd is spot on regarding the crates. There was zero engine teching in this class in the last few years. I think the last time that UMP tried to tech an engine (three or four years ago) both guys refused. What does that tell you? You can still cheat with sealed engines and I will bet you that many are doing it today.
UMP and local promoters need to listen to the interviews that the big dogs like Birky Bloomer and Moyer. All are saying that cost are out of control. If that's the case for these guys then its obviously worse for the local racer. They need to limit tire compounds, engine costs, shock costs etc. Do you see that happening? I don't think so. UMP also needs to put some of their collected funds into the local track purses to help them attract and keep racers. JMHO
Just talked to Bill Faust who rebuilds crate engines. He says parts are available from GM.Another deal is gm isnt making repo parts for them anymore. So if one gets rebuilt it will have aftermarket parts in it. See where this is going? Cam crank ect Let the fun begin