Great Job UMP

How about taking a sample of the rubber that is on the track and have it checked at the same time the tires are checked. If the track rubber has the same "inconclusive" ingredients - then the tires should be considered legal because the track surface "could have" been transferred to the tires!
 
3bmachine said:
The people who can't afford it........ don't
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im sure there are a few that cant afford it....but its amazing what most racers seem to afford when they have to....just like a big motor. dont get me wrong i dont want to see anymore cost go into this sport b/c its gonna kill it, but on the other hand, if they cant police it....who knows, just a crappy situation
 
UMP should be the ones on here giving some answers. We deserve thier answers as it has gotten fans to be against KLoos after last year. And yeah pretty wired they got results back in a couple days. Sounds as if ump needed some money last year.
 
96fast said:
just make it legal........done...then NOBODY has to hide it
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The UMP cartel will never make it legal for one reason. It would dip into their pockets! They want you to buy as many tires as possible and something that adds life to them would cut into their kick back. UMP knows just like I and anyone else with sense that these tire test wouldn't hold water in a court of law if someone had the funds to take it that far. All they have succeeded in doing is making an azz of themselves and drag racers through the mud. When UMP went from 1 man trying to make racing better for racers to a group looking to make money, it's been down hill ever since. They don't give a rats azz about the local racer. They care about making money and keeping investors happy. The writing is on the wall and if promoters don't start reading it and heading it. Their tracks will be a shopping center or a sub-division before they know it! It absolutely sickens me.
 
One of the summer nationals regulars said that it would take over 100 tires to run the full tour. That being the case there is little possibility that a regular would have the time to treat tires. JMO

Also, an inconclusive finding by the lab means nothng. But Ump should have sent a sample for the full blown lab test. By not doing so they lose credibility. I see them falling short in a number of areas. For example--when is the last time they claimed a crate motor?
 
3bmachine said:
The people who can't afford it........ don't
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Then it's just one more thing to separate the top cars and the rest of the field. I have a feeling that most LM's and Mods are using it. If they make it legal, that means it will have to be legal in all classes. Ex. Sportsman, SS etc. Thus raising the costs even more. It's a bad deal all around.
 
Dave34 said:
Then it's just one more thing to separate the top cars and the rest of the field. I have a feeling that most LM's and Mods are using it. If they make it legal, that means it will have to be legal in all classes. Ex. Sportsman, SS etc. Thus raising the costs even more. It's a bad deal all around.
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Great post and very true. Plus as ive said before..........if its made legal you all will wish it had not been. Want to raise some red flags.....that will do it. Just go ask the kart organizers and ask them why they are banning it nationwide now.
 
kreke13 said:
One of the summer nationals regulars said that it would take over 100 tires to run the full tour. That being the case there is little possibility that a regular would have the time to treat tires. JMO

Also, an inconclusive finding by the lab means nothng. But Ump should have sent a sample for the full blown lab test. By not doing so they lose credibility. I see them falling short in a number of areas. For example--when is the last time they claimed a crate motor?
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I hear you there on both items Al. I watched them use the sniffer at a couple of S/N shows this year. Using the sniffer at the tracks is not going to tell anything conclusive. A full lab test would be the better option. Regarding the crate motors, the items that they have checked this year at select events are not going to tell you if the motor is legal or now. It seems like they are just going through the motions to make people feel like they are truly doing good tech, when they are not.
 
I just want to thank everyone for keeping this post at a "down to earth" pace. This is what I really like about the Discussion forum. Just a bunch of race fans sitting around and giving their opinion in a somewhat descent matter. I also want to say that my ranting and raving about a decision that really doesn't have anything to do with me (other than being a fan) is not really my personallity. I was mad, and fired away.
This will also be my last reply to this, as I believe the only way for me to calm down is to just let go and move on.
On a final note just want to say there are some on here who's opinion does matter to me, and others not as much, but everyone kept things in check, and I thank you for that.
Enjoy the cooler 90's weather......I know we will at my work
Adam Koch
 
Thats what its all abuot and i agree. Hey we all believe different things and wish for other things. But in the end....discussing it might help help the matter or at least raise a flag saying......hey this isnt right.....fix it!
 
RACN911 said:
I just want to thank everyone for keeping this post at a "down to earth" pace. This is what I really like about the Discussion forum. Just a bunch of race fans sitting around and giving their opinion in a somewhat descent matter. I also want to say that my ranting and raving about a decision that really doesn't have anything to do with me (other than being a fan) is not really my personallity. I was mad, and fired away.
This will also be my last reply to this, as I believe the only way for me to calm down is to just let go and move on.
On a final note just want to say there are some on here who's opinion does matter to me, and others not as much, but everyone kept things in check, and I thank you for that.
Enjoy the cooler 90's weather......I know we will at my work
Adam Koch
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Adam Koch =class act!
 
yes!!...:)
pitdrifter said:
the ump cartel will never make it legal for one reason. It would dip into their pockets! They want you to buy as many tires as possible and something that adds life to them would cut into their kick back. Ump knows just like i and anyone else with sense that these tire test wouldn't hold water in a court of law if someone had the funds to take it that far. All they have succeeded in doing is making an azz of themselves and drag racers through the mud. When ump went from 1 man trying to make racing better for racers to a group looking to make money, it's been down hill ever since. They don't give a rats azz about the local racer. They care about making money and keeping investors happy. The writing is on the wall and if promoters don't start reading it and heading it. Their tracks will be a shopping center or a sub-division before they know it! It absolutely sickens me.
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Thank You for starting it!...:)
RACN911 said:
I just want to thank everyone for keeping this post at a "down to earth" pace. This is what I really like about the Discussion forum. Just a bunch of race fans sitting around and giving their opinion in a somewhat descent matter. I also want to say that my ranting and raving about a decision that really doesn't have anything to do with me (other than being a fan) is not really my personallity. I was mad, and fired away.
This will also be my last reply to this, as I believe the only way for me to calm down is to just let go and move on.
On a final note just want to say there are some on here who's opinion does matter to me, and others not as much, but everyone kept things in check, and I thank you for that.
Enjoy the cooler 90's weather......I know we will at my work
Adam Koch
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