hey bleedblue

kingeddy said:
A persons credibility and reputation is affected first, by their own actions. Not by the words of others.
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I this were true than rumors wouldn't exist. Remember the witches? Since the 1930s has also been in use as a metaphor to refer to moral panics in general (frantic persecution of perceived enemies). Multiple psychological studies have shown a clear trend that the aggressor is more often trusted over the defendant even when no evidence is present.
 
why not put the name of the driver that bought the tire also. why just single one person out all he was doing was what the driver asked him to do...
 
I don't know the driver that took delivery... bleedblue stayed away from the trailer until he knew I had left to go on the infield.

I have far more dirt on his shady business practices too..
 
this tire stuff if retarded. i am friends with a lot of the 'better' modified drivers around here, and it seems like if i talk to driver 'a' he isnt treating his tires, but driver 'b' and 'c' are. and if i talk to driver 'b' he says driver 'a' and driver 'c' are dopping their tires and he isnt. etc. it is a mess.

so would an engine builder be barred from racing if i called them and said i have a UMP modified, and i want a brand new engine with an aluminum block, and i want them to spray paint the block with metalic paint? would i be in the wrong for wanting to cheat, or would they be in the wrong for conducting business and building me a cheater motor?

in my opinion, the people buying these tires are the people that need dealt with, not the guy doing it.
 
I disagree. Go after the primary suppliers of the cheated tires.

Also, those businesses with deals to sell tires at the track shouldn't have to put up with someone delivering tires to the track those businesses have an agreement with either.
 
UMP should figure a way to check all tires at all of their sanctioned tracks or change the rules to allow an even playing field. (oh, but that costs money) Run what ya brung!

UMP doesn't care, more cheated tires means more tire money!

The problem with racing today is there are too many Cry Babies, including Jimmy Dearing. Just Saying!
 
If your kids get arrested for buying drugs, shouldn't the cops arrest the seller too? Or should the seller be let go?

Kind of the same here. They aren't breaking any "laws" per se, but they are breaking the rules of the sanctioning body that they choose to do business in. If they aren't going to abide by the rules set forth by the sanctioning body, then they should not be allowed the priveledge (yes, it is a priveledge... not a right) to do business within that sanctioned event. You only have a right to sell your goods so long as your goods fit within the guidelines allowed, you forfeit your "right" to do business when you choose not to follow their rules.

Sure, he could still sell the same items away from the track, but as long as he is on the property which falls under the sanctioning body's rule, he must abide by their rules or face being banned from doing business on the premises.
 
28jracer said:
If your kids get arrested for buying drugs, shouldn't the cops arrest the seller too? Or should the seller be let go?

Kind of the same here. They aren't breaking any "laws" per se, but they are breaking the rules of the sanctioning body that they choose to do business in. If they aren't going to abide by the rules set forth by the sanctioning body, then they should not be allowed the priveledge (yes, it is a priveledge... not a right) to do business within that sanctioned event. You only have a right to sell your goods so long as your goods fit within the guidelines allowed, you forfeit your "right" to do business when you choose not to follow their rules.

Sure, he could still sell the same items away from the track, but as long as he is on the property which falls under the sanctioning body's rule, he must abide by their rules or face being banned from doing business on the premises.
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Exactly, I was thinking the same thing!
 
There is something easy that would fix all of this. As the cars go over the scales after their races just have an official look at the tires. If it was that easy for jimmy to see it it wouldn't be that hard for an official to see it right?
 
So Jimmy Cummings you would agree that A,B, and C are using or have used cheated up tires from bleed blue or another supplier... The point is that it's happening and needs to stop. Good work J.Dearing...
 
Lizardracing said:
I this were true than rumors wouldn't exist.
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Sure they would. Jealousy and hatred will always spawn rumors and falsehoods. And there will always be women around. (lol)

But in this case, I wouldn't even call this a "rumor" It appears to be the truth since Jimmy witnessed it, and Bleedblue isn't vehemently defending it (as he normally does his services).

If this particular driver hadn't been associating with or taking delivery from (by bleedblues own admission) a known tire cheater
and if he (bleedblue) didn't publicly advertise his services. We wouldn't be having this conversation.

If you don't walk like a duck or look and act like a duck, people probably aren't going to call you a duck. Think what you want, but in the real world, your own actions are the only thing that determines your fate. If you don't want your reputation tarnished, don't put yourself in a situation that will lend itself to do so. Ultimately a person is solely responsible for themselves.


Let me see if I understand you correctly, because this is what you appear to be saying: If there is a neighborhood crackhouse near you, you shouldn't tell your neighbors or friends about it. Your supposed to keep your mouth shut (tell only the police, who may or may not do anything about it) and allow their children to continue playing near it and be at risk? Are we supposed to be more concerned with the crackhouse owners reputation than the safety of innocent children??????

Maybe its just me, but that seems to be a really messed up ideology.
 
1mower, i dont know what these people are doing to their tires. i find it amusing though that they all point fingers the other way. at least all of this tire drama over the last year or so has taken peoples interest away from who has traction control, or whatever. maybe this will turn out like the gold track / locker rear ends that used to be illegal and now all of a sudden are legal.
 
The problem with racing today is there are too many Cry Babies, including Jimmy Dearing. Just Saying!
83vpMod you need a head check
Jimmy is calling attention to a growing problem and you call him a cry baby??
 
I'm not talking because I have nothing to say. Everybody knows what I do and I have no problem with that, but think about what some of you are asking me to do. I'm not going to out my customer base, I'm not going to talk about who is using prep whether it's my stuff or someone else's, period. My reputation is with them not the fans in my mind.
 
I thought this post on this web site by Bleed_Blue16 from 12-25-2009 was interesting
Brand new GSR undetectable Prep

GSR Tire Treatment is proud to announce our NEW undetectable prep for 2010. After some really hard work, time, and money we have came up with this new tire treatment. It works great on tracks that don't lay rubber or do lay rubber, hard or soft tires, and is completely undetectable. This will pass a sniffer, durometer, or lab test. Give me a call or send a message if you have any questions that I can answer. Thank You.
I like the part about "Completely undetectable" and will pass "Lab test"
And your proud of that??
 
i dont have a 'dog in this fight', so to speak, and i could care less who does what to their tires, shocks, engine, trans, whatever.. thats SOLELY a competitor's and sanctioning body issue..but i do know that if there was not a demand for this type of product, then the man wouldnt be in business. the mere fact that he is(still in business) tells me his phone must be ringing.. the longer this thread goes on, i would bet the man's phone rings more and more... gotta love the publicity! it does seem strange to me, though that a guy who has a camera constantly at the ready, sees something very interesting, and doesnt think to snap a pic? hmmmmm.....
 
Just curious... did you see him bolt the tires on his car? I know we take all kinds of tires with us to the track, some are probably illegal for the track. We just don't put them on (easier to just leave them in the trailer than unload/load them all the time)... You said you saw them on the back of a 4 wheeler not on the car. Maybe it was easier for bleed_blue to deliver them to the track that night instead of to his house?
 
Yes I am. I grew up racing karts, and in karts it's not against the rules. There was a short period when it was deemed illegal by WKA. During that time the true professionals got involved, the chemist's. You know I didn't ask my first customer for his business, he asked me. It was considered illegal during that time just like now but at that time it wasn't checked near as hard or if at all. The deeper the sanctioning bodies look into this the bigger the market is for guys like myself. I've been fortunate enough over the last couple years to meet some very important people in this market and marketplace, I'm truly appreciative of everything those people did for me. We have had this conversation before on here and nothing has changed since then, I'm still part of the tire prep market and openly advertise it. There is however been some consequences with that and I have excepted it. I can never compete in stock car racing, that's the one that was the toughest to except but as King said it's part of the table I set. His outlook or anyone else's besides me is their opinion of what kind of existence that would be, but that really only matters to me because I have to walk in my shoes, nobody else.

As far as Jimmy doing what he's doing, I don't have to agree with it. Really I probably brought it on myself with some of the comments I've made to him on here over the last couple years. I feel like he does have an axe to grind and that's something he has to deal with.
STLMSR said:
I thought this post on this web site by Bleed_Blue16 from 12-25-2009 was interesting
Brand new GSR undetectable Prep

GSR Tire Treatment is proud to announce our NEW undetectable prep for 2010. After some really hard work, time, and money we have came up with this new tire treatment. It works great on tracks that don't lay rubber or do lay rubber, hard or soft tires, and is completely undetectable. This will pass a sniffer, durometer, or lab test. Give me a call or send a message if you have any questions that I can answer. Thank You.
I like the part about "Completely undetectable" and will pass "Lab test"
And your proud of that??
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