Mini Stocks at Fredericktown to pay $200 to win weekly

By the way, the complete proposed payout for the RAMS at Fredericktown for 2007 is as follows:
1st - $200
2nd - $150
3rd - $125
4th - $100
5th - $90
6th - $80
7th - $70
8th - $50
9th - $40
10th - 20th - $25
I'll get the final approval on this in the next week or so. But as long as there is a decent turnout there will be no problem.
 
SMURFBLUE3 said:
Well I see it as if your rams legal you fredericktown legal??? then agian the rams rules are so screwed up now it just a run what you brung class... if you interpit the rules correctly (grey areas):D
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I dont see any big changes in the rules only no
Aluminum heads and only allowing ford engins are you trying to make it an all ford class why cant I use a Toyota in my Chevy. I just glanced over them but what are the big changes that make these rules sooo much better? There are grey areas in these rules too.
 
If you can read that’s specifically listed as legal in rules for Fredericktown. What’s funny (In more then one way) is you so interested in his rearend, and what happened to its illegal and always will be Jeff !!!!!!

2. Engine must be for make of vehicle being used (Chevy to Chevy, Ford to Ford, and GM to GM). However, The Ford 2.3 engine is the adopted engine (plus transmission and rear-end) for the Missouri Mini Stock Association and can be used in ANY make or model that meets MMSA standards. When installing Ford engine into another make, the #2 spark plug must be not further back than center of spindle with wheels pointed straight forward and vehicle at
 
One thing is for sure, there can not be any additional performance enhancing parts allowed for the mini stocks. Period. And why didn't I answer your question about the Toyota or Dodge engines??? It's real simple. I don't have to. The people who have been active members or long-time associate members of the RAMS know exactly what I'm saying and why. If anything I believe we should go to a stricter set of rules like Doe Run has. This crap of keep abusing the "gray" areas of the rules has to stop and stop now, especially when you look at who is doing the abusing.
 
That answer sounds like a real jerk LOL!!!!!!!
And don’t forget two-faced and hypocritical (just kidding) LOL!!!!!!!!!

Ford rear ends under Chevy trucks are illegal

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I've been hearing some rumblings about people using Ford rearends under Chevy pickups. Folks, that's illegal and has always been illegal. We had that situation come up during our second year of existence when we had a truck get the rearend ripped out during an accident at Fredericktown. The question came up and it was immediately discussed and voted down. That's one place where you always heard about the Ford to Ford, Chevy to Chevy rule.
 
Alright, everyone lineup for tech inspection!! Oh, that's Ok, you don't have to, you're my brother and I already know yours is illegal. Just park it over there..... LMAO..... "Did I say that?"
 
Big surprise a sarcastic, belligerent, pointless response LOL!!! Answerer a legitimate question (to explain how two-faced and what a liar you are LOL!!!!!!) would not happen we knew!!!!
"The people who have been active members or long-time associate members of the RAMS know exactly what I'm saying and why." Yea the same people that voted you out of your own association!!!!! Wonder why????????
Ever time you get caught with this kind of crap (even when proved by your own post) its always the same response, a pointless belittling answer usually followed with covered sarcasm LOL!!!!! Instead of any kind of stand and strait answer because that would just prove my point even more.

PS: Keep trying to call people to run damage control for what we already know and have discussed (great *** kissing LOL!!!) about your backstabbing two-faced actions. LOL!!!!!
 
smokingjoe said:
Big surprise a sarcastic, belligerent, pointless response LOL!!! Answerer a legitimate question (to explain how two-faced and what a liar you are LOL!!!!!!) would not happen we knew!!!!
"The people who have been active members or long-time associate members of the RAMS know exactly what I'm saying and why." Yea the same people that voted you out of your own association!!!!! Wonder why????????
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I can give one reason that jeff never ran for office... at one of our rams meeting somebody metion if jeff mills wasn't president that there would be at least 10 more guys join the rams to some members that seemed a good ideal and the word got back to jeff... well 2 years later non of them guys have joined.... jeff was kinda used as gator bate and guess what there was no gators
you need to know more of the story on jeff's desion to NOT TO RUN FOR PRESEDENT

he was not asked to resign nor was there ever vote on his removal so your above post is somewhat incorrect...

the real question is would you or any of the other officers decide not to run for election so more members would join? do you care for the rams that much... if not don't knock jeff for doing that!

now before you ask yes I drove his car are we friends yes do we see eye to eye on everything NO.
 
I was just wondering what you meant by mini stocks if you was including the Rams or not? Because the way I heard it was the actual mini stocks did a good job but a couple of the Rams cars was the ones to watch out for and needless to say they tore up a couple of GOOD cars.
 
racing#28b said:
I was just wondering what you meant by mini stocks if you was including the Rams or not? Because the way I heard it was the actual mini stocks did a good job but a couple of the Rams cars was the ones to watch out for and needless to say they tore up a couple of GOOD cars.
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well here the best I can describe it

ministocks were first started at doe run basically a beginner class cheap cheap fun fun

later rams was formed as a travling show there home track was the rock

next year MCS and the rock was home tracks to the rams and they still traveled but not as much as the year before..

next year rock shut down and mcs was home for the rams verrry little traveling

this next coming year???? as it looks now there will be MCS with there rules doe run with there rules the rock with there rules and rams rules....
thus causeing alot of people to scratch there heads??? on how to build a car to race at 3 tracks and be competitive???

as far a certian drivers every class every class has a lose cannon or a newbie you have to watch out for....
 
smokingjoe said:
Big surprise a sarcastic, belligerent, pointless response LOL!!! Answerer a legitimate question (to explain how two-faced and what a liar you are LOL!!!!!!) would not happen we knew!!!!
"The people who have been active members or long-time associate members of the RAMS know exactly what I'm saying and why." Yea the same people that voted you out of your own association!!!!! Wonder why????????
Ever time you get caught with this kind of crap (even when proved by your own post) its always the same response, a pointless belittling answer usually followed with covered sarcasm LOL!!!!! Instead of any kind of stand and strait answer because that would just prove my point even more.

PS: Keep trying to call people to run damage control for what we already know and have discussed (great *** kissing LOL!!!) about your backstabbing two-faced actions. LOL!!!!!
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See Joe, you just showed everyone both your lack of intelligence and knowledge in general about the RAMS. I don't know who you think I've called trying to run "damage control" because I've not called anyone. I could give you a pretty decent size list of people calling me complaining about you, but I've tried to stay out of it for the most part other than when it effects Fredericktown. That's where I'll draw the line because I've got a highly respectible, non-member who will unbiasly tech vehicles and will not create problems by overstepping their bounds. Remember, a tech man enforces the rules, he does not make them.
 
well here the best I can describe it

ministocks were first started at doe run basically a beginner class cheap cheap fun fun
Yes, Doe Run is where the mini stocks got their start. In my opinion, home of the original mini stocks!

later rams was formed as a travling show there home track was the rock
But, Doe Run still had a large number of mini-stocks...the class never died at DRR despite the fact that the RAMS developed.

next year MCS and the rock was home tracks to the rams and they still traveled but not as much as the year before..
Was this the year that the RAMS raced at MCS once a month?
Again, mini-stocks still existed at DRR despite the RAMS.

next year rock shut down and mcs was home for the rams verrry little traveling
Actually, Smurf, Doe Run and MCS were the home tracks for the RAMS (both tracks were available for the points race, how quickly some forget about that). And there was NO traveling because it was voted on that drivers DID NOT want to travel because they wanted to support Mel EVERY Saturday night in their first year there.

this next coming year???? as it looks now there will be MCS with there rules doe run with there rules the rock with there rules and rams rules....
thus causeing alot of people to scratch there heads??? on how to build a car to race at 3 tracks and be competitive???
I don't see how the Rock can have their own rules AND RAMS rules. It has to be one or the other but not both. What are they gonna say, "Well, you're not track legal but you're RAMS legal."?????? Talk about some angry people. ONE set of rules for Fred'town is gonna have to be decided on. And we wonder why there are so many 'gray' areas.
 
well I treid to explain the best I could remember I slept since then ... that was I ruff draft kinda not getting into any he said she said thing:eek: ..no pot stirrin here;) the rule yes we need to figure it out with 4 differnt possibilites you cant build a car (cheap) and be competitive at 3 differnt track (plus traveling tracks (sfcr)) we will see I guess..
 
Fredericktown is not a RAMS track they have come up with there own rules and are the new MMSA. Can’t wait to see what pointless sarcastic LOL!!! response will all get now.

PS: Jeff you ever going to answer other then BLA BLA BLA and give an intelligent response (other the accusing me of your lies and pointless accusations) oh great and wise know all mini-stock guru LOL!!!!
 
Joe, your opinion is just that, your opinion. However, Fredericktown is a RAMS track for 2007 so you'll just have to get over that. All of us have a good relationship with Mel that's why we support everything he does. We are planning on running some special events together for 2007 with the "B" Mods, the RAMS and possibly more. So as far as I'm concerned this issue is dropped. It will be completely worked out in the off-season. So whether you like me or not it really doesn't matter.
 
If I was in the middle of this I'd just drop the RAMS rules and go with your MMSA rules, exept for a few changes. If you want to run a 2.3 in a chevy fine..but regardless what motor you have the rules need to come a step back to save the class before you guys out price it..which it's on the border of now. There's guys from MCS that don't like how the rules are being interpretted now. But what choice do they have right now. Fredricktown and DRR are a bit far for a friday night. They are stuck with it for now.
 
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