Thats the question. One thing is for sure, if you don't give them some money, you are not going to be able to post on their forum! I find that rather offensive. But then maybe I am one of the people they want to shut up! I actually took the time to go to their meeting and see what was going to happen. I joined in on the conversation and added whatever I could on the technical side of things when asked to do so. They all seemed like a great bunch of people. I did so because I have been very vocal on many subjects on their forum. I do this only because I have an interest in such matters when I am approached to build motors for certain classes such as the RAMS. I never intend to join such organizations simply because I at present, do not own or enjoy any proceeds from such classes. I only benefit from the sale of the motor. I know this sounds a little selfish but I am simply telling the truth. To the people of DRR, these people voted to basically open up the rules some more. If this is your desire, then I suggest you go along with them. If you are not wanting to spend more money, then I suggest you make it to your rules meeting for Doe Run and vote against the RAMS. It looks like I intend to go how DRR decides to because it will probably be cheaper and alot closer to home should the ROCK not open. If I had known censorship was a big part of the RAMS, I would not have wasted my time and my fuel!