GAS UPDATE! Its going UP

Out here in Warrenton, we arent getting gas for like a month. which means stuff like schools might be closed, if teachers cant get to work to teach. People will loose hours at work dramatically. If this really happens, alot and i mean ALOT of stuff, businesses, banks, might go out of business for awhile. I read an article today that, the US Fianance System Market Dropped dramatically. From what i read and from what i got the US lost alot of money in their fianance system.
 
Keep that baloney in the other thread. No one is to blame for the immediate shortage of gasoline, except for Hurricane Ike. The worst place it could've went inland, in terms of gasoline and oil, is Galvenston, which it did. The refineries were shut down, and the platforms evacuated. Hopefully in the next few days, the supply will start flowing again.
 
no moonflow it is here fault just like the rest of thedems and some republicans if we had more options in the market we would less affected by the storm we have 3 times the amount of oil on our land than the saudis give you a clue why do you think they call up in north dakota the black hills hmmmmmm ,oil is dropping today again and gas is at 2.48 and change in FUTURES
 
MCS_4b_racefan said:
Out here in Warrenton, we arent getting gas for like a month. which means stuff like schools might be closed, if teachers cant get to work to teach. People will loose hours at work dramatically. If this really happens, alot and i mean ALOT of stuff, businesses, banks, might go out of business for awhile. I read an article today that, the US Fianance System Market Dropped dramatically. From what i read and from what i got the US lost alot of money in their fianance system.
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Where did you hear this from? The only thing I can figure out about the stations in Warrenton is that they lag behind other communities when it comes to bringing prices back down.
 
If you want news as to what is going on with oil production you need to get past all the rumor mill crap!! Here is a good site that has very good info, they are running a little farther behind than usual on updates but I think that is to be expected:

http://www.rigzone.com/
 
dirtgoon said:
Where did you hear this from? The only thing I can figure out about the stations in Warrenton is that they lag behind other communities when it comes to bringing prices back down.
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i have friends of people who are managers at the gas stations out here in Warrenton. ANd that was what they told me.
 
flamewarrior said:
How do you like them republicans now any reason to raise the fuel they use to their advantage
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This isn't a Republican thing, this isn't a Democrat thing. Each party has enough dirt (or in this case, oil) on their hands that no one is innocent. We're all gonna keep getting the shaft if we keep electing Republicans or Democrats. The government isn't going to help anyone that isn't one of them, so it's time to help ourselves! Vote 3rd party, and let's start making our own fuels.

Iv'e posted a recent interview with a gentleman who has converted his diesel car to run on used vegetable oil, and I will soon be doing an interview with the author of the book "Alcohol Can Be A Gas". Click on the I-POD player at www.AltonDailyNews.com and click on the file- Veggie Power. It's a little more work, but it's a doable technology, and best of all it helps give big oil the middle finger, even if only a few of us get turned on to this way of thinking and stop drinking the national media's kool-aid.

BTW, Galveston was decimated by the hurricane, and the average price of gas there is only up 14 cents a gallon, to $3.66. Oil closed at $93 a barrel today. The number for the Illinois Attorney General's Consumer Fraud Hotline is 1-800-243-0618.
 
E85 and Biodiesels are two examples of using alcohol to reduce the amount of petroleum based fuels consumed. And it doesn't have to be corn ethanol, either. Soybeans can be used as well.
 
Not going to be a cat in this fight but we do have to look at other ways and other resources. If we start today then in 15- 20 years we will have another generation not fighting this battle- so to say poo poo to the ideas of the future is just slamming the door to the future of our kids and grandkids. We need to address the immediate problem but open our windows to the future ideas and gert on them now ! J/M/O
 
Which is the stand Barack Obama takes. His energy reform policy has options not only for more drilling, but better management of the SPR, and development of alternative fuels that reduce our dependancy on foreign oil. Remember, it's not just gasoline that is a factor here. Imagine a house built 3 years from now, in the northeast, that's not heated by heating oil, but instead, geothermal heat, and powered with solar energy. Imagine cars in the future that are converted to be able to use renewable fuel sources, like biodiesel, and E85, or hydrogen fuel cells. You do not hear any of that talk from the McCain camp. Just "drill more".
 
We have enough oil ifthe flipping democrats will let them drill in out own land with out going intothe precouis ocean yes we need alterentive fuel also but they need to do something not just say we have e85 biodesiel etc and do nothing
 
moonflow said:
Which is the stand Barack Obama takes. His energy reform policy has options not only for more drilling, but better management of the SPR, and development of alternative fuels that reduce our dependancy on foreign oil. Remember, it's not just gasoline that is a factor here. Imagine a house built 3 years from now, in the northeast, that's not heated by heating oil, but instead, geothermal heat, and powered with solar energy. Imagine cars in the future that are converted to be able to use renewable fuel sources, like biodiesel, and E85, or hydrogen fuel cells. You do not hear any of that talk from the McCain camp. Just "drill more".
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As stated earlier, Obama is not the answer, and neither is McCain. Obama had a comparably short stint in the Illinois senate and 173 days as a U.S. Senator. But of what value is there in it in any of the candidates? Has it ever been defined? And what has all that experience garnered the country, except an incremental progress towards statism and a steady dwindling of individual freedom?

Further, not a single candidate lacks experience in corruption, venality, malfeasance, concession, logrolling, compromise, theft, and a multitude of other misdemeanors. Obama is not the stainless prophet ready to lead the country in a "new direction." He is as guilty as any of the rest of them.

John McCain is an enemy of freedom of speech. His campaign finance law has made it more difficult for any one to oppose the collectivist policies that his alleged opponents "across the aisle" regularly propose. Barack Obama, for his part, has twice now, as far as it is known, attempted to suppress the truth about his past political associations, chiefly his comradeship with William Ayers, the Weatherman "radical" who bombed the Capitol building long before Obama would spend so little time in it. It is appropriate that Obama's political career - one that advocates the use of government force in every sphere - was launched in the home of a retired and unrepentant terrorist.

Obama likes to chide Senator John McCain for his lack of vision, possibly for his age, and for wanting to continue Bush's domestic and foreign policies. But one has never heard Obama thank McCain for having sponsored the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law, which Obama is attempting to use to censor or intimidate anyone who raises the matter of his extremely questionable political background.

What all the candidates seem to have lacked are any commitment to freedom, and the integrity to proclaim it and act on it. But, it would be an error to think that. Neither the Democratic nor the Republican Party is a friend of those things. In point of fact, both parties are committed enemies of freedom. Whether McCain or Obama wins the White House in November, there would be no "change" and no "new direction," but more of the same movement in the same direction, which is statism. The only difference between the candidates is the preferred rate of acceleration in that direction.
 
It is under $4.00 on the eastside. It is $3.99 at several stations in Belleville.

Quit with the political junk.
 
moonflow said:
Which is the stand Barack Obama takes. His energy reform policy has options not only for more drilling, but better management of the SPR, and development of alternative fuels that reduce our dependancy on foreign oil. Remember, it's not just gasoline that is a factor here. Imagine a house built 3 years from now, in the northeast, that's not heated by heating oil, but instead, geothermal heat, and powered with solar energy. Imagine cars in the future that are converted to be able to use renewable fuel sources, like biodiesel, and E85, or hydrogen fuel cells. You do not hear any of that talk from the McCain camp. Just "drill more".
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bull the dems just put thier energy bill together it all smoke and mirrors still can't explore 80 percent of the land and ocean we need to explore mccasskill schumer and kerry made sure the the iraq contract would go through for some hydrocarbon tax bull crap that's why the chinese has the contract theonly energy plan obamahas is to fill your tires and tune up lmfao
 
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