hey bleedblue
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midget racer
Open Wheeler
i was kinda bored earlier, and i remembered a post on here a few years ago dealing with a very well known and liked local racing legend and tire prep. so, i did a search and found it. the thread was called "strange observations".. dated june of '08. if you go back and find it,, not one person on there had a problem with kenny schrader using (apparently) tire prep. by far the bulk of the conversation was whether or not he 'laid back' or not, letting the little guys win from time to time. like i said, nobody called anyone a 'cheater' on that thread.. this thread, however, is loaded with cheaters this, and cheaters that, and no friend to racing, blah, blah... i guess that says if you are liked well enough, you can do whatever you want, with no one saying a thing. that is the picture of being hypocritical, in my book. now, let me say i have been a fan of kenny since i met him at lake hill early 70's, and still am to this day.., but if we are gonna call a shovel a shovel, and a spade a spade, lets not be selective about it when it comes to a name.
PITDRIFTER
Motorsports
Why other than it doesn't put money in UMP and Hoosier's pockets and may allow a guy to get more use of the sh!t tires and buy a few less is tire prep not just allowed? Just curious!
71_racing_crew
Member
Very good point just like he used a 3 speed trans. at the Duquoin mile crate race 5 or 6 years ago and got caught. Whether its legal or illegal people, racers having the funds are going to strive to reach the next level to get every little bit of a edge they can. Its a proven fact and not something that has just rose to the surface recently. Most people on here being the average fan has no knowledge in what some of these guys spend on there car. It would blow you away on the amount of money that some have in there motors, shocks and the list goes on and on.
bleed_blue16
Nick Gieseking
Bust me out Jimmy Dearing. What am I being untruthful about????
So i guess what you're saying is all of his customers are cheaters.
midget racer
Open Wheeler
don't hold your breath waiting for a reply on that one.. i got accused of something similar earlier this thread, and still waiting for a reply. as deep as this is by now(21 plus pages and still growing) if somebody knew something rock solid, it would have been revealed by now... just stone throwing and insinuations is all i see.
SLIDINDIRTY
We do it dirty
What is your objective, Jimmy? Tire prep is not a safety issue, it's a tire issue. If they didn't have to use a sh*t tire then they probably wouldn't be using the product! The problem that should be addressed is the type of tires they're required to use to be "legal". If you raced and this was your money you would probably feel different. Tires are a huge expense for a driver. Like I said before, keep complaining about something minor and tracks/sanctioning bodies keep kicking drivers out and the end result is NO RACING (which is what you claim to love). The drivers are KEY to running a race track and you need them! I don't race, I'm just a fan, but I can read some posts and come to my own conclusions. Listen to the drivers who bring these tracks business!
What is your h*rd on for Nick, anyway? I don't know the guy but you seem to love to say he's a liar about everything. Unless you're sleeping with him how in the heck would you know?!
What is your h*rd on for Nick, anyway? I don't know the guy but you seem to love to say he's a liar about everything. Unless you're sleeping with him how in the heck would you know?!
bleed_blue16
Nick Gieseking
Art Knepper is the one with the hard on for me... lol... I pointed out a WISSOTA tire being delivered to a driver at a UMP track. Then says I would of taken a picture of it if it was really there. That simple....
Nick, you know you didn't pay rent for 6 months at the shop you were in!!! I also believe your statement about all these sanctioning bodies being in collusion with testing labs to give fake positive results is crap... That is nothing but a tactic to spin the story...
Nick, you know you didn't pay rent for 6 months at the shop you were in!!! I also believe your statement about all these sanctioning bodies being in collusion with testing labs to give fake positive results is crap... That is nothing but a tactic to spin the story...
That is how the cheaters attempt to justify their cheating. They say that everyone else is doing it, which is not even remotely true.
bleed_blue16
Nick Gieseking
First of all I moved into that shop in March and paid for that month. I was told numerous times by the person who owned the stuff and the fairboard that it would cleaned out, it never was. I went to a person on the fairboard in April, May, and June and told them every month I am not paying for someone elses storage unit. The place was a distaster area, it wasn't presentable at all for a business. I couldn't set up my computer system, I had to hand write all my receipts because of that, I couldn't have the Internet put in, it was ridiculous. I will not stoop to your level and say who's stuff it was. The fairboard during the whole time said they understood and with almost no notice at all they sent me a letter in the mail stating I had until the 17th of July to vacate, that was just short of 2 1/2 weeks. I went to the fairboard with $1200 cash and said they would clean the place out like they said it would be then they would get paid, but they declined. Where did I do anything wrong in that situation????
You don't have to believe me on the lab deal, it will come out and then you will be exposed for having the axe to grind like you denied earlier. You won't even look menin the eyes at a race track, what are you afraid of?
Cheating low-lifes, like this Nick Gieseking guy, have no creditbility whatsoever. They cheat and lie so much, that they begin to believe that their lies are reality.
IF that were the case, I severely doubt that it is, then why did you not move out immediately? Also, since you did stay, then why didn't you man up and pay your rent? Any half-way decent person would have done that. You seem like a real slime ball and I am glad that Jimmy Dearing has called you out.
midget racer
Open Wheeler
i called your attention before to post number 15 before, mr. dearing... who openly admitted not thinking to take a picture of the tire. i just basically re-stated what you said. i did not even suggest there really wasnt a tire at all. now, who's the liar now, huh, dearing? it seems like it is you. you are putting a politician-like spin on a lot of your statements to detract from the original subject. people are looking past your bs and starting to see things a bit differently. even if this guy delivered a wissota tire to a customer at a ump event, it's not illegal to do so. even if the customer bolted that tire on his car, it's still not on the tire supplier; its on the customer/competitor. i would think with all of your savvy, you would realize that.. i guess not. i dont have a hard on for you,dearing. i think you should stick to taking photos, and dont worry about what you have no business doing. thats all.
bleed_blue16
Nick Gieseking
I tried to pay what was owed as long as they held up their end of the deal. Whether it was the fairboard or the owner of the "crap" in the building it didn't matter to me, I just wanted it removed like I was told it would be in March. If that makes me a liar, slimeball, no good, whatever else then so be it. I had cash in hand, they didn't want it.
I took their word that it would be cleaned out in a timely manner and it wasn't, I paid for a full month of mess. I even half way organized and moved the stuff around so you could at least walk around in there. Not much more I could have done in my opinion.
I took their word that it would be cleaned out in a timely manner and it wasn't, I paid for a full month of mess. I even half way organized and moved the stuff around so you could at least walk around in there. Not much more I could have done in my opinion.
t.nie
Patience Tester
All that was seen was a tire with Wissota on it in a trailer being pulled around the pits with a bunch of other tires. That's all. A tire in a trailer. Not even in the possession of a racer, or bolted on a car.
Is it illegal to possess a non-UMP labeled tire in the pits at a UMP sanctioned track?
Is it illegal to deliver products to racers at the track?
Is it illegal for a racer to have in their possession something that is not a legal part at a racetrack?
Is it illegal for a driver to have other tires not legal under the sanction at the track they race at in their hauler?
Hey Jimmy, if you see beer in a cooler next to a hauler, are you going to accuse the driver of drinking while he is racing?
Face it. You saw NOTHING. Period. You don't like the guy, so you use your website to bash him. That's all you're doing.
It seems to me that if I was over at UMP, I would be more than a little miffed at you calling out the sanctioning body and accusing them of not doing their job policing tires. Because that is what this amounts to more than anything else.
Bleedblue is carrying on a perfectly legal business in the USA. Selling cheater parts to racers isn't a crime. Using them isn't a crime, but it can get you kicked out of competition for awhile and cost you some money.
And once again, all you saw was a tire. That's all. The rest of this has been your own insinuations, assumptions and innuendo along with other people jumping on that bandwagon.
Is it illegal to possess a non-UMP labeled tire in the pits at a UMP sanctioned track?
Is it illegal to deliver products to racers at the track?
Is it illegal for a racer to have in their possession something that is not a legal part at a racetrack?
Is it illegal for a driver to have other tires not legal under the sanction at the track they race at in their hauler?
Hey Jimmy, if you see beer in a cooler next to a hauler, are you going to accuse the driver of drinking while he is racing?
Face it. You saw NOTHING. Period. You don't like the guy, so you use your website to bash him. That's all you're doing.
It seems to me that if I was over at UMP, I would be more than a little miffed at you calling out the sanctioning body and accusing them of not doing their job policing tires. Because that is what this amounts to more than anything else.
Bleedblue is carrying on a perfectly legal business in the USA. Selling cheater parts to racers isn't a crime. Using them isn't a crime, but it can get you kicked out of competition for awhile and cost you some money.
And once again, all you saw was a tire. That's all. The rest of this has been your own insinuations, assumptions and innuendo along with other people jumping on that bandwagon.
