Tricity rules meeting big turnout
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Schoenfeld part # sch-107 exits the fender fits and clears perfect you can change oil filter and starter and clears firewall with no modification and motor location is in stock location then you will have an inch between crossmember and fuel pump with no notching of cross member
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RACN911
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Let me ask a question... The reason no more E85 is because people are buying high dollar fuel and it's and it's costing more for the racer to keep up??????????
If that's the reasoning then let's go back to street tires only in the street stock class. Hoosiers were allowed because they were way cheaper to buy used ones off of mod and sportsman guys. I still know some street stock guys who run used ones but many just buy new ones...... Let's eliminate the Hoosiers..... Same reasoning.
If that's the reasoning then let's go back to street tires only in the street stock class. Hoosiers were allowed because they were way cheaper to buy used ones off of mod and sportsman guys. I still know some street stock guys who run used ones but many just buy new ones...... Let's eliminate the Hoosiers..... Same reasoning.
mkoch96
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If the real reason for outlawing E85 is that it is possible to buy an expensive version of it, is regular racing gas going to be outlawed also? Roughly 10:1 compression is about the most you will get out of a legal street stock engine and, properly tuned, that will run just fine on 93 octane pump gas.
I don't know about Tri-city's b-mod rules, but with Highland's 12.5:1 rule, pump E85 is by far the cheapest fuel available. All that this rule is doing is taking away an affordable option for those guys.
I agree with Adam in that if they are going to start using cost as a major consideration in ammending the street stock rules, the tires do need to be looked at. Not only because of the cost of buying the tires and how fast they wear, but also because of the available traction with an e-mod versus a d.o.t. tire. Back when we had to run street tires, it was a lot less evident who had the high dollar motors. With the hornet class being cut or at least made into a part time class at most local tracks, the street stocks need to be made into an inexpensive, entry level class again like they used to be.
Maybe this is the conspiracy theorist coming out in me, but I wonder if the new fuel rule doesn't have to do with the fact that they don't sell E85 at the track. Or is it just that the people making and voting on the rules haven't done the research on E85 and are afraid of what they don't know very well.
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I don't know about Tri-city's b-mod rules, but with Highland's 12.5:1 rule, pump E85 is by far the cheapest fuel available. All that this rule is doing is taking away an affordable option for those guys.
I agree with Adam in that if they are going to start using cost as a major consideration in ammending the street stock rules, the tires do need to be looked at. Not only because of the cost of buying the tires and how fast they wear, but also because of the available traction with an e-mod versus a d.o.t. tire. Back when we had to run street tires, it was a lot less evident who had the high dollar motors. With the hornet class being cut or at least made into a part time class at most local tracks, the street stocks need to be made into an inexpensive, entry level class again like they used to be.
Maybe this is the conspiracy theorist coming out in me, but I wonder if the new fuel rule doesn't have to do with the fact that they don't sell E85 at the track. Or is it just that the people making and voting on the rules haven't done the research on E85 and are afraid of what they don't know very well.
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The perfect bmod is 604 crate engine 4 barrel gas or e85 carb ,quick change so u dont have to change stupid gears between tracks that get tiring and they cost as much as a nine inch ,and for the e85 problem make them buy teched e85 frome the track and add on shipping of barrels quit simple
and stay two link not four bar! birdcages are exspensive!
[quOct. ="mkoch96, post: 842752, member: 1916"]If the real reason for outlawing E85 is that it is possible to buy an expensive version of it, is regular racing gas going to be outlawed also? Roughly 10:1 compression is about the most you will get out of a legal street stock engine and, properly tuned, that will run just fine on 93 octane pump gas.
I don't know about Tri-city's b-mod rules, but with Highland's 12.5:1 rule, pump E85 is by far the cheapest fuel available. All that this rule is doing is taking away an affordable option for those guys.
I agree with Adam in that if they are going to start using cost as a major consideration in ammending the street stock rules, the tires do need to be looked at. Not only because of the cost of buying the tires and how fast they wear, but also because of the available traction with an e-mod versus a d.o.t. tire. Back when we had to run street tires, it was a lot less evident who had the high dollar motors. With the hornet class being cut or at least made into a part time class at most local tracks, the street stocks need to be made into an inexpensive, entry level class again like they used to be.
Maybe this is the conspiracy theorist coming out in me, but I wonder if the new fuel rule doesn't have to do with the fact that they don't sell E85 at the track. Or is it just that the people making and voting on the rules haven't done the research on E85 and are afraid of what they don't know well.
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93 Oct. Is all I use in my streetstock works fine, hoosier or dot tires doesn't matter to me. I don't buy new of either
I don't know about Tri-city's b-mod rules, but with Highland's 12.5:1 rule, pump E85 is by far the cheapest fuel available. All that this rule is doing is taking away an affordable option for those guys.
I agree with Adam in that if they are going to start using cost as a major consideration in ammending the street stock rules, the tires do need to be looked at. Not only because of the cost of buying the tires and how fast they wear, but also because of the available traction with an e-mod versus a d.o.t. tire. Back when we had to run street tires, it was a lot less evident who had the high dollar motors. With the hornet class being cut or at least made into a part time class at most local tracks, the street stocks need to be made into an inexpensive, entry level class again like they used to be.
Maybe this is the conspiracy theorist coming out in me, but I wonder if the new fuel rule doesn't have to do with the fact that they don't sell E85 at the track. Or is it just that the people making and voting on the rules haven't done the research on E85 and are afraid of what they don't know well.
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93 Oct. Is all I use in my streetstock works fine, hoosier or dot tires doesn't matter to me. I don't buy new of either
i know jimmy,602s are dumb no power at least if you had a 604 still no power but you could always use it in a street rod if you wanted to quit racing try sellin a 602
(And internals of 602 and 604 IS CHINESE CRAP)
mkoch96
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You may be surprised to find out how many internal racing engine parts brands are using imported materials or even manufacturing parts overseas( Eagle, Scat, Callies Compstar, etc.)
dirtracerl77
LEE MOTORSPORTS
The problem with E85 is Sunoco & VP make oxygenated E85. This would not be a fair fuel in a class with limited carburetor size. It would make a 500cfm carburetor perform like a much bigger one. If you have ever raced carts or motorcycles you would understand how much more power oxygenated fuels make. Its almost like adding nitro. This is why they are going to no E85. It is much easier than trying to police out the racing version.
dirtracerl77
LEE MOTORSPORTS
The specific gravity of nonethanol oxygenated fuel is way different than regular race gas and could easily be checked with a hydrometer. E85 has such a wide variety of actual ethanol content , 65 to 85%, that it is hard to tell the difference with a simple hydrometer.
mkoch96
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All this argument aside, when was the last time anybody has weighed your fuel to check for oxygenated race gas? For that matter, when was the last time anybody has checked your fuel at all. They can make all the rules in the world, if they don't tech for them, all it does is hurt the honest guy.
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RACN911
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step 1- Add water to this line.
step 2-Add E 85 to this line.
step 3-wait for bubbles to stop ,and check the line for the amount of ethanol content.
That folks, is how you check E85..... My 9 year old could do it.
As far as the price, I was getting mine from a local farmer who buys it in bulk for $3.50 per gallon. He said corn prices are down , and it's gonna get cheaper.
High dollar cheated up Sunoco, or Vp fuel being the reason? I don't buy that excuse for a second.
step 2-Add E 85 to this line.
step 3-wait for bubbles to stop ,and check the line for the amount of ethanol content.
That folks, is how you check E85..... My 9 year old could do it.
As far as the price, I was getting mine from a local farmer who buys it in bulk for $3.50 per gallon. He said corn prices are down , and it's gonna get cheaper.
High dollar cheated up Sunoco, or Vp fuel being the reason? I don't buy that excuse for a second.
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