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smokingjoe said:
The bigger question is how does a track that does not run RAMS rules even get RAMS points??????????????????????????
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I belive becuase doe run rules was actually "stricter" than rams rules (example) mufflers,no rear weight jacks (unless car was a 4 coil spring car)no aftermarket intake thus meaning if you was legal there you car would have benn legal to run with the rams... (beside saftey issu's)which they was adopting this year (I belive) examples door plate and lug nuts.. this is what I bielive that was discussed in the meeting last year (I'VE slept since then:D :D )
 
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FaithfulFan said:
Hey, I think the traveling series is the best thing (especially for the points race). If the RAMS are gonna travel next year, the dates need to be gotten earlier and the members need to vote on it. I would be ALL for it!!!
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When we raced with the RAMS the best part for us was the chance to see different tracks and conditions. Gives young drivers new experiance and the guys that have one track dialed in have to work on gear and chassis combos for other situations. If anything, neutral tracks can level the playing field a bit. Schedule one a month and no body will have to make a major sacrifice.
 
It would be very easy to schedule a RAMS "travelling" Point Series for 2006. All you have to do is ask....
 
also the travel serious shows off what the rams are all about the comptetion and it also opens peoples eyes that dont normally see your cars run and then u might get even more people/sponsors interested in your group.
 
It's not like we were not going to "ask"..But no sense in asking when the majority didn't want it and may still not want it. And it wasn't a presidential decision either so can't blame her for that one. The southern group was pretty much for it, but just like everyone else has stated..the MCS guys did not want it then and voted that way. And as said before..they want to support their track. Just look and see who traveled between the 2 tracks this year. Almost all the RAMS from DRR ran at MCS. Other than Rob and Butch which live in our direction there were none that traveled to DRR from MCS. Some talk about a division between the two. The south drives north for races and meetings.. The north stays north. Which is fine and dandy, but seems like that's where that theory is coming from.

And another thing about the rules. As Marty stated...DRR rules are more restrictive than RAMS and the top dogs were DRR. As of next year goes..if i can be and will be DRR legal and it ain't good enough for the RAMS then I guess I'll be a DRR ministock. The rules meeting last year stated what tracks were RAMS points eligable. So why the complaints now I have no idea.. I guess it was a majority vote and you were a minority. Just like I was a minority on the point system and wanting to travel in 05. But no complaining after the vote. I took the points deal and I still did some traveling to MCS. I still like racing head to head for those points though and if we could get a traveling series going that would be great. But it was not just blown off for this year by our officers.

Alright now...pick it apart and have fun kids....

peace out!
 
at doe run ...

you can have more power. after market rollers are allowed. all the power you need right there!!!!!!!!!!! i would say my home track is montgomry county. i am the only one that travels to doe run. :eek:
 
Millsey said:
It would be very easy to schedule a RAMS "travelling" Point Series for 2006. All you have to do is ask....
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Who are you trying to convince of this???? I was ALL FOR a "traveling" series. BUT, like I have said over and over and over again.......it was VOTED DOWN!!! No point in pursuing it if drivers weren't willing to do it.
 
Wolfman_5 said:
you can have more power. after market rollers are allowed. all the power you need right there!!!!!!!!!!! i would say my home track is montgomry county. i am the only one that travels to doe run. :eek:
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but thats not what beat you wolf.....I belive that was just a typo in the rules.... if not then that would be something we need to look at this year....
 
Who would ask? The people who aren't selling their vehicles! Why would I offer? Because I've had phone calls from CURRENT & PAST RAMS members who are interested in doing that again. People who are looking forward to a few "changes."
 
Millsey said:
Who would ask? The people who aren't selling their vehicles! Why would I offer? Because I've had phone calls from CURRENT & PAST RAMS members who are interested in doing that again. People who are looking forward to a few "changes."
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GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There were CURRENT members who were interested in doing it this year. If that's what they were interested in.....that's what they should have voted on. I can think of SEVERAL people who are looking forward to a few "changes"......... :D
 
In my opinion, if the RAMS aren't going to travel then what is the purpose for the organization? I felt that we should have been a traveling series this year but it was voted down. Apparently, the ones that didn't want to travel just wanted another points fund to dip into without having to do anything more than race every week at their local track. I feel that it needs to go back to a traveling series with a minimum # of races attended requirement to qualify for the points fund. But I have a feeling that the majority may not go for it just like this year. :cool:
 
FaithfulFan said:
GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There were CURRENT members who were interested in doing it this year. If that's what they were interested in.....that's what they should have voted on. I can think of SEVERAL people who are looking forward to a few "changes"......... :D Who knows, maybe the RAMS will only exist at MCS next year.
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I doubt that, however it does seem apparent that the people from MCS are looking at this situation with open eyes instead of closed minds. That is refreshing.
But some people keep wanting to make this an "MCS people" vs "Doe Run people" and that's not true. And before that it was "RAMS people" vs "Doe Run people." Do you notice a trend? But when the owner of one track JOINS the association to have a better understanding of what is going on it seems obvious who cares. Mel has come to a few meetings in the past even before joining. The only other track owner to ever come to one of our meetings was Denny Keith of Fredericktown.
 
Point fund to take!!!!!! Now thats funny.
Plus a majority of drivers whether LM, Mod, SS any class run at a home track, Id say 80% do. The RAMS being a low budget beginer class doesnt seam like a good venue for traveling in my opinion.
 
smokingjoe said:
Point fund to take!!!!!! Now thats funny.
Plus a majority of drivers whether LM, Mod, SS any class run at a home track, Id say 80% do. The RAMS being a low budget beginer class doesnt seam like a good venue for traveling in my opinion.
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Well, actually we did it for 3 years before this one and it worked fine. I believe that's the main reason that MCS has ministocks this year.
 
It was set up as a travelling series... You are absolutely correct. BUT, the whole idea of establishing the RAMS was also to establish a set of rules where the mini stocks could grow throughout the region using those established set of rules. That way the RAMS mini stocks could easily be set up at any track.

The way we did it at MCS was PERFECT! We raced there once a month last year to introduce the class to that area while at the same time allowing people there to build and/or buy vehicles.

I've been busy this year talking with various promoters about bringing the RAMS mini stocks to their track in the future, whether it be for a special show or a regular part of their track's program.

The RAMS mini stock program can be an exciting and very benefical part of any track's racing program. The more people that are involved the better off the entire racing community will be.

So would it be easy to establish a travelling series to go along with a regular racing program for 2006? Hell yes, and everyone would benefit..
 
I forgot to mention yes it should be a full season of events your right. 12 races does not make a champion in my opinion. It’s a whole years worth of consistence that earns a championship!!!!!!!
 
Aftermarket roller cams ?????????? 7. Heads must be stock. Heads and blocks may be decked for trueness.Engines may be bored for trueness.No porting or polishing. Heads must be for type of vehicle you are racing(Chevy to Chevy,Ford to Ford) Aftermarket cams may be used. Flat top or dished pistons only..........Important Note: Anything not specified in these rules must be stock from the manufacture. The track director and race officials will strive to implement rules fairly and equally among all participants. Remember, this class is for fun!. I don't see anywhere that says aftermarket roller cams are legal at DRR. This must be one of them gray areas just like a stock transmission is one with gears removed for less rotating weight. If a person would read the rules ONCE and not reread it several times to make it sound like they want it , all rule books would be OK. The question of aftermarket roller cams was brought up at one of the first drivers meetings and the answer of ABSOLUTELY NOT ALLOWED was the answer.As far as the differences between DRR and the Rams are aftermarket intakes and no rear coil springs added to leaf cars.How many MCS cars are running any of the two items ? I can name 2 vehicles. This class was brought to this area to be an INEXPENSIVE class that anyone could afford. As far as the traveling series I think it is a great idea. I also like the way it is to have 1,2, or even more tracks that will honor the Rams points. I think the points system needs to be adjusted by the car count at a track, just like alot of tracks are doing with the payout.Heck you never know but Brad Yoder may be a track to look into for next year ........ OK I am going to shut up and go work on the car now.Kenny
 
smokingjoe said:
I forgot to mention yes it should be a full season of events your right. 12 races does not make a champion in my opinion. It’s a whole years worth of consistence that earns a championship!!!!!!!
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Well, in years past, there were SET DATES that the RAMS would compete for RAMS points...........NOT a full season of events. I think there was a time that with rain outs and stuff there were less than 12 races that determined the winner.

With that said though, this years champ did have a whole year worth of consistency.....only had 2 nights that he finished out of the top 2 in the feature. In my opinion, he did earn a championship!!!
 
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