ump dirtcar round up@ I55

roundup question

the roundup tent-breakfast is that in the pits and if not where is it?:D
 
these rules are weak for the sportsman class. they should call it the UMP round-up / Allied Spring Sportsman Nationals. they are excluding over 1/2 the sportsman cars in the nation with these rules. my new car has about 380 pounds of lead on it to make weight, but with the engine i have in it now i would have to add another 400 pounds to make it at 3300, plus since my brinn is in it i would have to add another 100, so i would have about 900 pounds of lead on the car. i already spent about $100 on lead clamps, and had to go to 4 different part stores to get them, so that is not an option. the indianan car and northern illinois cars would have to add porbably 500 pounds of lead and get different carbs, and for a thousand to win show that is 3 days that is not feasible. if this is going to just be an extreme series rules race, why isnt it going to be an extreme series race? the ump street stocks, the next lower class from sportsman, doesnt have a weight penalty for cubic inch so why do the sportsman at the round-up? thats weak
 
Jimmy Cummins said:
these rules are weak for the sportsman class. they should call it the UMP round-up / Allied Spring Sportsman Nationals. they are excluding over 1/2 the sportsman cars in the nation with these rules. my new car has about 380 pounds of lead on it to make weight, but with the engine i have in it now i would have to add another 400 pounds to make it at 3300, plus since my brinn is in it i would have to add another 100, so i would have about 900 pounds of lead on the car. i already spent about $100 on lead clamps, and had to go to 4 different part stores to get them, so that is not an option. the indianan car and northern illinois cars would have to add porbably 500 pounds of lead and get different carbs, and for a thousand to win show that is 3 days that is not feasible. if this is going to just be an extreme series rules race, why isnt it going to be an extreme series race? the ump street stocks, the next lower class from sportsman, doesnt have a weight penalty for cubic inch so why do the sportsman at the round-up? thats weak
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You have some good points Jimmy. I do believe these cars are stacked with to much lead. It's a tough call though... open the rules up or keep them local? Would you lose some of your local cars if you open up the rules and would you gain enough IN and Central IL cars to make up for it? I remember back in the day we always had open comp races at the end of the year. You should be able to get 50 plus cars for this race, if only 18 cars show up I think you have to try something different in the future. As far as it being an Extreme Series race... there's already going to be 4 races at I-55 so I won't add another.
 
well you are loosing one car, because i wont take my new car down there, just my older one. seems to me at the first round-up they didnt have 20 sportsman cars show up so they had bombers and street stocks out there. i think it would be a lot better and more interesting race if hines, clark, perry, kimmons, etc showed up and you lost a few local guys, but that is my opinion.

also, are there any updates on the extreme series then? the only pevely races i was aware of were the pepsi nationals and the fall nationals.
 
Jimmy Cummins said:
well you are loosing one car, because i wont take my new car down there, just my older one. seems to me at the first round-up they didnt have 20 sportsman cars show up so they had bombers and street stocks out there. i think it would be a lot better and more interesting race if hines, clark, perry, kimmons, etc showed up and you lost a few local guys, but that is my opinion.

also, are there any updates on the extreme series then? the only pevely races i was aware of were the pepsi nationals and the fall nationals.
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There should be 2 more just not confirmed yet. tentatively looking at july 31st and aug 6th
 
mad daddy said:
duh they do its called UMP TIRE RULE
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Yep but many of the locals still leave theyr'e cars in the garage when the WoO are in town. Sure it would do the same with the sportsman, the question is would you get enough top tier sportsman drivers to show up to offset the locals that would chose not to show up.
 
i think most of the local drivers are insecure, that is why not many travel. As proof, look at how many race multiple tracks, how many followed the extreme series, and how many keep their cars at home when there is a special race at the only track that they do race. I would bet you would have atleast 4 or 5 really good cars show up at the round-up if the rules werent so biased toward allied cars. people dont realize you dont get much better racing against the same cars every week, you only get as good as the people you race with. look at randy korte, i would say he got a lot faster when he left the area and traveled with hav-a-tampa for a year or however long he did that.
 
I don't know much about the rules and do know this has been an issue from the start but why cant they come up with some common ground to get far away states to come in? Good example is us on the kart track. We have what we call "The Kid Kart Nationals" all karts must be to the same spec. and we get drivers from Fla. to Califorina. No kidding OVER 1/2 the field is from someother state. Last year there were 6 states that came in. Again I ask because I don't know but why cant they come up with some common ground. Heck I thought this show was to draw in cars from faraway. You got to say the car count and excluding sertin drivers is a real stupid idea if you want to call this "The Greatest Show on Dirt" Or "The Round Up" because all your doing is cherry picken drivers to show. JMO
 
ExtremeRaceCars said:
Yep but many of the locals still leave theyr'e cars in the garage when the WoO are in town. Sure it would do the same with the sportsman, the question is would you get enough top tier sportsman drivers to show up to offset the locals that would chose not to show up.
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YOU ANSWERD YOUR OWN QUESTION ABOUT THE LATES aand everyone in lates have the same rules as far as only 20 sportsman for the fall event hello their its in the fall points are done time to do something else betcha hines wil be there in a crate
 
I know late change the rules for all classes since imca is supposedly bigger than UMP than they should use their rules :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
bryanracing55 said:
I don't know much about the rules and do know this has been an issue from the start but why cant they come up with some common ground to get far away states to come in? Good example is us on the kart track. We have what we call "The Kid Kart Nationals" all karts must be to the same spec. and we get drivers from Fla. to Califorina. No kidding OVER 1/2 the field is from someother state. Last year there were 6 states that came in. Again I ask because I don't know but why cant they come up with some common ground. Heck I thought this show was to draw in cars from faraway. You got to say the car count and excluding sertin drivers is a real stupid idea if you want to call this "The Greatest Show on Dirt" Or "The Round Up" because all your doing is cherry picken drivers to show. JMO
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Easier said than done! If you wanted to do it it would have to go something like this. Clips cars 104" wheel base 4" motor setback 2800lbs 4 barrel no cubic in limit steel block/ steel heads. 3 link rear suspension w/coil overs. This would allow close to 90% of your sportsman cars in the country to be legal. However i doubt 10 Allied cars would show up to race against that type of competition. The Eilers and Cummins have raced against these cars and done ok.
 
really now

:D:D:D:D don't fit does it
 

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