Why we have high gas prices

bc said:
I think what hes saying about we pay the tax for companys is they figure in what they will have pay in taxes to what they charge us. No matter what there isn't a thing we can do about it but at lease we have a place where we can vent.
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Duh, no double duh.
 
ace your comments are correct, and when it comes to big business and this also applies to big oil, dont know if you have any racetrac gas stations where you live but we have had them down south for a while.

Well for a while they were an independent oil and gas provider and when they first started you could pay only cash for fuel at there stations. The gas they sold was only from there own refineries. However it did not take long before big oil squashed them like a grape and cutoff there supplies of oil to the refineries and and pressured Racetrac into buying gas from the big refiners.
At that point Racetrac gave in and started selling big oil fuel and began to allow purchases by other than cash as well.

There are many cases out there where big oil has gotten rid of the independent competition and they will continue to merge with each other and lessen the competition and price as long as the govt. allows them to.

I consider myself conservative, however I will not be voting for any Republicans for the presidentcy due to there lack of interest in promoting fair trade in the oil business.
 
Hey poorowner I was trying to clear up something dirtslinger had said. You know I usally ignore stupid committs like your but I couldn't let this go I think it was when you said double duh.:)
 
aceracing said:
you are right
there is not much different in demorcats and republican or demorcrates but demorcrate do try to help the lower and middle class but when clinton was in office we had a surplus now we have the greatest defeict in history all buy giving the rich the most tax break
but what i hate the most about bush admistration is out right lieing and re writing what the real facts are. using class war that is a old game that the conservtive use to create a mis direction while the right called for deregulation was a way to monoyplized on everythingl and when they call for war on terror it is a war on out civil rights and the small business admistration rule were written by big business to keep a little guy at disadvandage
sorry about miss spelling spell check wont work
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When you have a surplus, that means the government has too much of YOUR money.
How did we get that surplus?
By giving us the largest tax increase in history, and then gutting the expenditures on the military and the infrastructure, while increasing welfare to people who won't work.

Again, look at your paycheck. Klinton taxed MORE of what you make. Is that helping the "middle class"?
Giving more of YOUR $ to people who won't work. How is that helping the middle class-let alone the people who get that $? It makes them more dependent on politcians and less on themselves.

How can you give someone who doesn't work a tax break?
THEY PAY NO TAXES.

You people act like those levees in New Orleans suddenly became decrepit overnight.
They had been in terrible condition for years and years.
BTW-the funding wasn't cut, the INCRESE in funding was cut. Just like the Democrats say we aren't spending enough money on schools when the truth is we are spending more than ever-and Johnny still can't read.

Government controls on profits hurt everyone. That is counter to what our economy is based on.
Tell ya what-let's let government control how much money you can make...wait, they do, it's called TAXATION.
The more you make, the more they tax.
Where is the incentive to make more $?

I wonder where Shell gets most of their oil? Not here. It's imported. Or they send it directly from the well to countries other than the US. They aren't exporting it if it never comes here.

Restricting oil companies-or any other is restricting free enterprise.

And for the person who says for me to STFU, I must have hit a nerve. The truth hurts, doesn't it?
 
Swappin Paint said:
This post hasn't been replied to in three months. Why keep beating a dead horse?
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So this thread isn't relevent anymore? Gas prices are down to something reasonable?
 
What has this thread solved? All I see is one big arguement. One average working joe like me after another telling the next they don't know what they're talking about. Reality is, they only know what the news and media tell them. Getting on here trying to sound a little more educated than the next guy isn't serving any purpose. If people want to do something about it?

GO VOTE! THATS THE BEST AVENUE OF MAKING YOUR VOICE HEARD WE AS AMERICANS HAVE!!!!
 
So the answer is go vote, don't ask questions, don't get opinions, don't try to be informed, just vote.

I really appreciate your enlighting me.
 
How will voting affect gas prices?
Our government has nothing to do with it.

If you think they do, why does CITGO charge the same for gas as Mobil?

CITGO is owned by the Venezuelan government.

They produce the gas with Venezuelan oil, right?

Are you trying to tell me Bush tells Chavez, who hates us, how much to charge for gas?
If that is true, then they are making way more on a gallon of gas than all the other oil companies combined!

Bush doesn't tell France how much to pay for a barrel of oil. Nor does he tell Germany or any other country.

The price is set by speculators on the world market, just as any other commodity such as wheat, corn or pork bellies.

Oil companies make a 9% profit.
Grocery stores try to make 33%.
That's THREE TIMES more than the oil companies!

Why aren't we hollering about excess grocery store profits?

They have to show a gain in earnings or investors go elsewhere with their money, like grocery stores.

And in this town, there aren't many choices for grocery stores.
 
Maverick! said:
Exxon/Mobil is not producing anymore fuel this year than last year. But, made a whole heck of alot more profit on it this year. WHY we say............ PRICE !! Its all in price.
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Exxon didn't make their profits on gas, they made it on oil. If it costs you $5 dollars to pump 1 barrell of oil and you can sell it for $30 dollars (as it was 3 years ago), that is $25 dollars of profit. Oil is $70 a barrell now and they have the same amount of costs as they did 3 years ago. Everytime oil goes up, so do their profits.
 
the biggest point Dirtslinger misses in his simplist view is the fact that France and Germany TAX the **** out of a company that makes outlandish profits, those taxes then go to help the people while this bunch of crooks let thier Ctizens and Country suffer.
 
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