tell me what you think about this

I think this is a awesome idea, you have to at most places to hold a job take a test, why in the world not a race track, you pick up a check at the end of the night dont ya?
 
i could name a hand full of drivers that smoked some weed or other things for that matter and all of you guys would be shocked to think that some of your favorite drivers do it weather i agree with that or not its reality if you want to test then test but its just gonna hurt the race track and more than likely shut down
 
i would guess that it happens alot more often than anyone would care to admit to/really would want to know about. i would think that eventually the association(any of them) would make an effort to effectively police themselves, because if they dont, somebody will come in and do it for them. if anybody comes on here(or anywhere) and argues loudly against this, thats the one person i would pick to test first. invasion of privacy stopped when you signed in.
 
You can tell it is winter and people are bored when they start talking about drug testing local dirt racers. Do you really think that is a problem? What about tracks closing down? Why would you be worried about that when most tracks are not drawing enough cars or fans to stay open? If you drug tested I bet there wouldn't be any cars left in the pits to have a full feature. Also, btw when was the last time you heard of someone in a car crash testing positive for drugs? I personally may have missed something but the only thing I have ever heard was someone being pulled over but never in a crash and them blaming it on drugs. So unless someone wants to pull their own cash out to sponsor a track or organization for this then there isn't a point. Tracks are having a hard enough time getting sponsors for classes and to keep the doors open.
 
For starters yes I do have a problem with someone smoking a little weed or snorting whatever because ITS ILLEGAL! Secondly it definatly becomes my business when someone I am friends with or close to such as family becomes hurt because of someone elses stupid decision. As was previously stated all that crap slows down your reaction time and was made ILLEGAL for a reason. I agree with whoever said that for those of you who are agaisnt it probaly wouldn't pass any way. And for biker6403 if a driver needs a little "liquid courage" to drive a race car I guess he doesn't have balls enough to do it so he should be sitting in the stands and watching. Need liquid courage to drive a car give me a break. I for one definatly agree with the drug/alcohol testing.
I was expecting someone to use the “ITS ILLEGAL” line. It’s illegal to speed on the public roadways also. Should we call for racetracks to set up speed traps in front of their establishments? It’s illegal to not report all your income to the IRS. Must we now have all tracks put a forensic accountant on staff to question drivers at the pit shack about their finances? Stealing is also illegal; maybe lie detector tests as a condition of admittance to the pits? After all we don’t want thrives among us. See where I’m going with this? We are a nation of laws not of vigilantes. It is not our job to snoop on our neighbors and report what we find like some authoritarian State.

I can appreciate what I’ll assume were the opening posters intentions of not wanting incapacitated drivers on the track, and I don’t disagree with that. But unlike an alcohol test which tells a persons state of intoxication at that moment, a drug test includes a much larger span of time and isn’t instantaneous so it isn’t a useful tool in determining if a person is fit to race at that moment. Show me a test that does and I’ll reconsider my position.

As for midget racers call for those who disagree with testing to be tested first, you’d get pretty board with my results unless vitamins and cholesterol meds get you excited. All I race is the grandstands anyway.
 
I know several track champions that are puffers... Hard lefts as much as i hate to agree with you,you are right about this thread.
 
next would be a physical to race,do you smoke,drink,have family history of heart diease,cancer,well there goes half of us,lol
 
i tell ya what for everyone complaining about this thread you would not be complaining if one of your kids or a family member got hit buy a racer that has been doing drugs or drinking while in his or her race car.
 
Maybe I live in a farytale, but I dont believe theres a major problem in the first place. I will say, there are a few drivers ive seen that its OBVIOUSE that there not sober. If there was a way to police the obviouse, that would be great, problem is all the oficials are busy, no one is running the pits looking for alcohol, and its too easy to hide.

Any driver that is remotely seriouse about racing will be sober on the track, theres way too many "snap" decisions, and its impossible to run consistent and fast when your aiming for the 12 inch wide groove when your ****ed up. Pitching the car in and hitting your line is way more of a high than anything ive ever touched before, and id say most all drivers would agree with that.

I did get hit by one of the obviouse guys a few years ago because he didnt see the yellow flag, I got sheet metal damage, he took himself out. Thats the only personal incedent that ive had. Now, if I had gotten hurt, or ended up with a destroyed car, I would probably look at it completely different. Just everything ove seen, the ****ed up ones usually hit a wall, light pole, or pile into a wreck caused by someone doing something stupid in front of them.

Just my opinion
 
I don't condone racing drunk!I guess your too young to remember seeing a lot of Haulers sitting at the tavern at 3pm Sat. in Pierron,IL USA,any other town!!! :cool:Too everyone else, THX!!!
For starters yes I do have a problem with someone smoking a little weed or snorting whatever because ITS ILLEGAL! Secondly it definatly becomes my business when someone I am friends with or close to such as family becomes hurt because of someone elses stupid decision. As was previously stated all that crap slows down your reaction time and was made ILLEGAL for a reason. I agree with whoever said that for those of you who are agaisnt it probaly wouldn't pass any way. And for biker6403 if a driver needs a little "liquid courage" to drive a race car I guess he doesn't have balls enough to do it so he should be sitting in the stands and watching. Need liquid courage to drive a car give me a break. I for one definatly agree with the drug/alcohol testing.
 
somebody refresh my memory; didn't the driver of the car that ended up in the stands at mt vernon fail the test afterwards? or at least test positive?
 
Good question and if so what was the out come and if he ran UMP is he still in good standing as a racer?
All post make some kinda sence and it seems theres no fix all to the question. Guess it's going to take something like Mt Vernon to get cought. God have mercy on the one that runs into the stands drunk and kill a friend of mine.
 
If we do all the above then we need to see every drivers medical records and what perscription meds they take as well. It does not matter to me either way if they test . But if the following is going to be done then check for perscription meds. Also all those energy drinks and pills that are over the counter that gives the same, legal feel as sniffing ! There are more over the counter and perscription stuff any one can get that is far worse then some of the mentioned above! We talk about the pits and someone getting hurt ! Hey over half the people in the pits should not be in the pits PERIOD ! Sitting in the stands we laugh at some of the idiots trying to kill themself and ruin a driver for life ! And if they do test stay away from poppy seeded muffins at QT for breakfast !
 
I know several track champions that are puffers... Hard lefts as much as i hate to agree with you,you are right about this thread.

Your full of the stinky stuff dude....

I seriously doubt that you "know" them, or even have first hand knowledge of what they do. Its not likely that you are hanging out with "several track champions" away from the track. And even less likely that you've seen these high profile drivers engaging in these types of activities openly at the racetrack. Your just like the rest of us, and only heard the rumors. If your gonna make a statment like that I think you should have to ballz enough to name names. Atleast give them a chance to defend themselves and/or kick your butt.

Unless they are caught sparking it up at the track or snorting it right before they climb in the car, its really not anyones business. And if this is what your claiming to "know", like I said...name names.

And I can see it now, breathalyzers attached to MSD Boxes.
 
like I said...name names.

And I can see it now, breathalyzers attached to MSD Boxes.


No one should ever name any names because if they are wrong then that persons image is done ! No turning back the damage ! :( And the breathalyzers attached to the MSD box now won't that get in the way of Traction Control or does that come from somewhere else ?
 
not saying its ok to do it. but it would be a mess trying to do all these tests on all the drivers.like dirtgirl said. these perscription meds that almost any dr will prescribe now days. are the biggest prob of all of this.
 
No one should ever name any names because if they are wrong then that persons image is done ! No turning back the damage !

Lisa your missing my point, and maybe I worded my post wrong. What I was trying to say is, if this clown has actually seen this type of activity happening at the track, he should report it. He should go get an official, and take him to the offending driver, and then make his accusation.

Knowing his braggart demeanor, I highly doubt that he has ever witnessed such activities and like usual is just shooting his mouth off. Its idiotic for him to get on hear and post a statement like that based on heresay.
 




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