Fastrak Crate Late Models Practice Results

There are tracks that cannot attract a full field of Super LMs. This has been the case BEFORE this new series was even discussed. Without Fastrac those tracks including Mt Vernon and Montgomery have or will eliminate the Supers. The numbers just dont work when you try to make the pay out. I think fans would greatly prefer Fastrac to no late models. I also believe this is a much better class than spending the same amount on a motor and putting it in a sportsman car. Nothing against the Sportsman guys, we raced them for several years, but I wish Fastrac was here when Brent was starting out.

Also wondering if some guys will run these motors in a mod and later dump them in a LM for the sanctioned shows.

Good luck to all the hard working folks at Midwest Fastrac. Dan Rather says "courage"; I say "perseverance" is the key.
 
I dont understand the problem? Go ahead and build u a motor for 5,000. Then take it out and run against some of the locals like rodney melvin, ed dixon, frankie martin, mark voight, or the fausts. Let me know how that works out for you. You'll be so far behind you might feel like your racing for the lead, but you'll see the difference when you go pick up your check.
You cant beat this series. 5,000 for the motor, theres a $10,000 points purse, a ton of $1200 to win races, and an equal playing field. AN EQUAL PLAYING FIELD!!!! You will be running the same motor as everyone else. If some of the people on here could drive half as good as they think they can then this series should be perfect for them. There wont be any *****ing about how someone else is cheating because they will actually being checking the cars, just think of all the time some of you will save there alone. Im personaly pretty excited about the series and i think after this year it will really take off after people see it really is legit.
maybe i missed something or am just understanding this wrong, but i dont understand the complaining.
 
Kevin, the part you mentioned that I'm the most curious about is that EQUAL PLAYING FIELD... You should have some fantastic races with cars that are a lot more equal. You know as well as I do that there are some late model guys out there that are fantastic drivers, but just can't $$$$ their way to the front. This is that opportunity to see that. Plus, it's going to open a lot of doors for people to get into late models that never would have been able to before. When they brought the Fastrak late model to the show in Bonne Terre I got to talk with the entire Midwest Fastrak brain trust. I was enthused about the class before, but even more so now. There will always be an "unlimited" late model class, this is just a tremendous opportunity for others to experience real late model racing for about the price of a real good modified or sportsmen car.
 
hate to break it to you harry but if you new half the poeple on here giving their opinions like myself you would for sure know that everyone of us can run with the best there is,and are as good as we THINK WE ARE AS YOU SAY...you go ahead and get excited about the fastrack,its your right just as well as it is our right to be scepticle and voice our opinions..nobody said anything about running a $5000 motor wit ed dixon cause we all know that wont happen.we are talkin about the $5000 peice of junk that you have to run in the fastrack series,weather you want to admit it or not..yes this is a great deal for the guys that cant fund a full blown late model operation,but like i said before,get a descent power plant in these things that these folks are gonna get their money worth out of..the only reason they dont wanna run their own set of descent motor rules is they dont wanna put in the extra work it would take to tech them..once again,this is a great thing but the motor will keep me away from it unless i just get a crazy wild hair up my ***....if you know anything about racing at all there is never a level playing feild,there is always the guy that finds away to break the book,if not in the motor it will be done in other areas..
 
Racer94 it's people like you that make this board so good. It's so obvious you are speaking from your heart and it's so very important to get the input of people just like yourself. I really think that after watching this program work you would be one of the people just daring enough to give the class a shot.
 
If you have the money, build a big car, more power to you. But lets face it, the economy hasnt been friendly to our area the last few decades, especially not where im from in southern illinois. THere arent a lot of great jobs to go around. This class is going to give a lot of people a chance to prove theyve got what it takes, and make a name for themselves without killing them financially. A guy with a wife and three kids can afford to run this class and compete. I personally think everyone is going to benifit from this.
1st the drivers, they are going to get a chance to compete for a fair price and on a playing field that is as equal as your are going to find, while gaining a lot of experience
2nd the tracks, i think they will get a good turn out of these cars, especially in the next couple of years, and every car is going to have people with them spending money.
3rd the fans. We are going to get to see good competitive racing. i dont think it will be 1 or 2 cars running away with it and everyone else playing follow the leader like in some of the other classes.
Dont get me wrong, im not saying get rid of the supers, i just think this will be a good steping stone for a lot of talented drivers.

Milsey, i was trying to say about the same thing, sorry if it came across differently.
Racer 94, i dont mean to take anything away from any drivers, i respect everyone who puts the time and courage into racing, but everyone knows that the best driver in the world could be out there driving a latemodel and if he doesnt have the money in it, he's not going to win. WIth this class he will have an opportunity to.
 
racer94 said:
hate to break it to you harry but if you new half the poeple on here giving their opinions like myself you would for sure know that everyone of us can run with the best there is,and are as good as we THINK WE ARE AS YOU SAY...you go ahead and get excited about the fastrack,its your right just as well as it is our right to be scepticle and voice our opinions..nobody said anything about running a $5000 motor wit ed dixon cause we all know that wont happen.we are talkin about the $5000 peice of junk that you have to run in the fastrack series,weather you want to admit it or not..yes this is a great deal for the guys that cant fund a full blown late model operation,but like i said before,get a descent power plant in these things that these folks are gonna get their money worth out of..the only reason they dont wanna run their own set of descent motor rules is they dont wanna put in the extra work it would take to tech them..once again,this is a great thing but the motor will keep me away from it unless i just get a crazy wild hair up my ***....if you know anything about racing at all there is never a level playing feild,there is always the guy that finds away to break the book,if not in the motor it will be done in other areas..
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I have been racing for 40 years and I can assure you this is the hardest class to tech or at least if you do it right it is. Its not less tech, 10 times more.
 
We have seen the schedule of races in the midwest, now the question is will they have enough Fastrack cars to fill out a couple of heats and a 18 or 20 car field at these events. Who are some of the drivers (names) that are planning to run to fill these fields of cars.
 
like i said my only complaint is the motor area.i only know of a couple tracks that you can get away with stk crank and rods like the crate engines have and i think they will find monkey city is not one of them,you may be alright if your easy on the throttle and brake..im one of them guys that if i had a 30,000 dollar race tek engine i would be right up their with the rest of them,but i have 4 kids and a wife that i take care of too and i just cannot fund that kinda motor this being why i run limited late's..if the series works out and gets the car counts i would like to see,then i would have no problem trying it out,but i want to see first hand how it does this season..
 
I Am All For Fastrak Making It. The Biggest Reason Is Because Its Another Choice For The Racer. Just Seems To Me Though That Some People Want To Tear It Apart. I Can Understand Being Skeptical Before Jumping On The Band Wagon. But To Down It Before It Even Gets Started?? Just Take A Wait And See Aproach. As Far As The Entry Fee Goes, This Is A Traveling Series. Do Other Traveling Series Charge An Entry Fee? I Always Figured They Did??? If A Track Were To Adopt These Rules As A Weekly Class, I Would Think There Would Be No Entry Fee. I By No Means Want To See The Super Lm's Go By The Waste Side. But Like Kreke13 Said, There Are Tracks That Just Don't Get The Numbers To Justify Having Them. I Just Think They Should Be Given A Good Chance To Make. It Sounds Like A Ligitament Deal. Time Will Tell.
 
Racer94

Here is where you are wrong. If these motors will last at Ogelthorpe, they will last anywhere here in the midwest. Have you ever raced at ogelthorpe or even been there well I have and it is a motor eating machine. From what I read only one crate motor expired at OSP and it was a year old.

If you are so firmly convinced that your solid lift, wet sump, 652 hp (is this off of the desktop dyno) late model motor is the way to go then RACE IT!!!!! And then let these guys at Fastrak run there series with what ever motor, tires, carbs, and lugnuts they want too.

Scott, Kevin, and Sean have worked very dilligently to make this work. I support there efforts 100%. It's people like you that make it extremely difficult on them. Keep up the good work guys, these naysayers are getting ready to be proven WRONG.
 
first off racer85 i dont give a rats *** what has happened at oglethorp,i know what happens at monkey county and i have witnessed many of motors expire there that were 3 times what these paperweight fastrack motors are.if you had any clue of what was in my motor you would know that 650hp (ALKY) flat tappet cam/wet sump motor is an understatment.you may use desktop dyno but sorry son we know what we are doin here..we who have spoke our minds on here have every right to do so until this fastrack proves us wrong,which may or may not happen we will see at the end of the season.i have never said these guys cannot run anywhere,we are just simply telling the points of the series we do not like and that we are a little scepticle which is our right,you got a problem with that then im sorry go fly a kite...the series sounds like a descent deal but like most of them that come along like that it is just that,seems good.until i see thing happen then i will not join the bandwagon,if it does alright dont be surprised to see me there!!!!!!!!!
 
racer94 said:
first off racer85 i dont give a rats *** what has happened at oglethorp,i know what happens at monkey county and i have witnessed many of motors expire there that were 3 times what these paperweight fastrack motors are.if you had any clue of what was in my motor you would know that 650hp (ALKY) flat tappet cam/wet sump motor is an understatment.you may use desktop dyno but sorry son we know what we are doin here..we who have spoke our minds on here have every right to do so until this fastrack proves us wrong,which may or may not happen we will see at the end of the season.i have never said these guys cannot run anywhere,we are just simply telling the points of the series we do not like and that we are a little scepticle which is our right,you got a problem with that then im sorry go fly a kite...the series sounds like a descent deal but like most of them that come along like that it is just that,seems good.until i see thing happen then i will not join the bandwagon,if it does alright dont be surprised to see me there!!!!!!!!!
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Racer 94 and Dean;

First of all I don't know you guys at all, so I certainly don't have anything against you. I will say this though. Although you are entitled to your opinion I would really appreciate if you got all your facts straight. I don't mind aruging for arguing sakes sometimes but I never state my case if I dont know what I am talking about. I keep hearing about how you guys have done extensive and thorough research. May I suggest you check your resources? Somone is giving you really incorrect information. Maybe you might consider if they have alternative motives. I don't. I actually could care less because I have ALL THE FACTS when indeed you just think you do.

I keep hearing the same old "smoke and mirrors" crap over and over. Now in my opinion when someone forms an opinion and states their case very strongly over and over and over and in fact their info is WRONG, that is exactly what smoke and mirrors is! You are forming a cloud of illusion form facts that are incorrect. THATS SMOKE!!!!!! The mirror is sometihng you have to look into when you do that and continue to back it up again and again.

THE FACTS:
1. WE WENT FROM 5 CARS AT OUR FIRST RACE TO 51 LAST OCTOBER. WHY? BECAUSE IT WAS BAD? BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK? HOW THE HECK CAN A RACER OR ANYONE FOR THAT MATTER ARGUE THAT FACT? WHAT IS THERE TO ARGUE? SOME THINGS ARE JUST PLAIN COMMON SENSE.

2. KEEP IN MIND WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A CLASS THAT ALREADY EXSISTED AND MOVING CARS FROM ONE SERIES TO ANOTHER. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. I MEAN A CLASS THAT HAD NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE WITH A TOURING SERIES. 5 TO 51??? HELLO!!!!

3. I HAVE HEARD OVER AND OVER 5000 RPM. WE CONSISTENTLY TURN THESE ENGINES 6200-6400 ON THE SMALL ENGINE. 6500-7100 ON THE 604 ENGINE. I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU KEEP POSTING THAT 5000 STUFF. IT JUST IS NOT TRUE. ITS WRONG INFORMATION.

4. BUYING THE ENGINES FOR 24??? LIKE I SAID I WILL TAKE 200 OF THEM RIGHT NOW. AGAIN WRONG INFORMATION. TAKE THAT ENGINE AND ADD THE ALUMINUM INTAKE, CIRCLE TRACK OIL PAN, CIRCLE TRACK VALVE COVERS, VORTEC HEADS AND WHA LA. DEAD ON THE MONEY OF $2945 JUST LIKE WE SAID. WE DONLT MAKE A PENNY ON ENGINES. WISHED WE DID. COULD WE? I GUESS BUT WE PASSED THE SAVINGS RIGHT ON TO THE RACER INSTEAD.

5. RACING WITH SUPERS. NO ONE EVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT RACING WITH SUPERS. I SIMPLY POSTED SOME TIMES. YOU ARE TALKING HYPOTHETICAL SITUATIONS AND I SIMPLY POSTED THE TIMES. NO ONE EVER CLAIMED THESE COULD RUN WITH SUPERS. ONLY YOU ARE BRINGING THAT UP. AGAIN I JUST STATED SOME PRACTICE TIMES. THIS WEEKEND COULD BE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.

6. THE GUYS THAT OWN THAT REGION ARE ONE OF YOUR OWN FOR GOODNESS SAKES. THEY HAVE SPENT AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF TIME AND MONEY TO PUT THIS TOGETHER AND YOU WANT TO FIGHT WITH THEM INSTEAD OF HELP THEM. DO YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR FELLOW RACER? OR ARE YOU JUST SERVING YOURSELF? I KNOW THEY COULD AND WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN WITH THEM BUT I KNOW THEY WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. WHY IS IT YOU CHOOSE TO FIGHT THEM INSTEAD? THESE GUYS STEPPED OUT OF THEIR CARS TO HELP OTHER RACERS AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS BLAST THEM. LETS ME ASK YOU THIS, WOULD YOU HAVE DONE THAT? WOULD YOU HAVE GIVEN UP THAT MUCH TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE.? ITS A FAIR QUESTION. YOU ACT LIKE THAT HAD TO DO IT. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT, THEY CHOSE TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY LOVE THE SPORT AND THE PEOPLE. THIS SPORT IS ABOUT PEOPLE. YOU THINK THEY ARE MAKING MONEY? IF YOU ONLY KNOW HOW RIDICULOUS THAT STATEMENT WAS YOU WOULD WRITE THEM A CHECK TO HELP THEM. HOPEFULLY ONE DAY THEY WILL BUT IT WON'T BE ANYTIME SOON.

$65 ENTRY FEE AND YOU COMPLAIN. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT LOCAL RACING HERE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A TOURING SERIES. DO YOU KNOW ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A ENTRY FEE? SO NOT ONLY DO THEY GET OUT OF THEIR CARS AND NO LONGER RACE YOU WANT THEM TO DO IT FOR FREE TOO!!

TECHNICAL ASPECTS. YOU TALK ABOUT HOW EASY IT IS TO TECH THESE CARS. WHAT A JOKE. AGAIN, WRONG INFORMATION! THIS IS THE HARDEST CLASS IN THE WORD TO TECH SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN ONE OR TWO RACERS CHEAT DON'T YOU THINK? SURELY YOU DON'T BELIEVE RACERS DON'T CHEAT. WITH SEALED BOLTS AND THE SERIES TECHING WE HAVE TO UNSEAL IT, TAKES TIME, IF ITS WRONG WE THROW IT OUT. IF ITS NOT WRONG THEN WE HAVE TO PAY TO PUT IT BACK TOGETHER, COST MONEY WITH GASKETS AND WHAT NOT, RESEAL IT, THE BOLTS AIN'T FREE EITHER AND PAY THE MAN FOR DOING THREE HOURS WORTH OF WORK. AIN'T CHEAP EITHER.

YOU TALK ABOUT HOW EASY ITS IS TO TECH THESE OTHER ENGINES. THATS RIDICULOUS! WHY DON'T YOU SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT HOW MANY WAYS YOU CAN COME UP WITH 358 CU IN? OR 400 OR 417 OR 430. CONSIDER ROD LENGTHS, PISTON SIZES, VALES CHAMBERS. HEAD CC'S, CRANK JOURNALS, ROD JOURNALS AND THE LIST GOES ON. PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW YOU CHECK THAT AND WHY IF IT IS AS EASY AS YOU SAY PEOPLE AREN'T BOTHERING TO CHECK THEM?

PUTTING ENGINE BUILDERS OUT OF BUSINESS? LET ME SHOW YOU THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION. ONE OF THE MOST INTELLIGENT BUILDERS I KNOW ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH PUT IT TO ME THIS WAY. THIS IS NOT OUT OF MY MOUTH BUT HIS. I ACTUALLY CALLED TO ASK HIM IF HE WAS UPSET WITH ME ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THE SERIES. HE ASKED ME IF I WAS CRAZY. HE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT HIS BUSINESS HAD BEEN DOWN FOR SEVERAL YEARS. NOW UNDERSTAND THIS GUY DOES EVEN NASCAR STUFF SO HE AIN'T HURTING BUT HIS BUSINESS WAS DOWN IN THE DIRT PART. HE TOLD ME THE BEST THING IN THE WORLD THAT COULD EVER HAVE HAPPENED IS THAT I DID THE CRATE ENGINE DEAL. THAT DRIVERS WERE FALLING BY THE WAYSIDE EVERY DAY SIMPLY FROM A COST STANDPOINT. THAT WITH THE CRATE LATE MODELS DRIVERS COULD NOW SHOWCASE THIER TALENT WITH OTHER DRIVERS AND YOU COULD SEE THE CREAM ACTUALLY RISE TO THE TOP. GUESS WHAT? WHERE DO THEY GO? SUPERS!!!!! THEN THEY NEED ENGINES!!!! HELLO!!!! DO YOU THINK THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THE ENGINE GUYS THAT ARE OUT THERE TRYING TO RUIN IT BEFORE IT GETS STARTED? NO! THEY WILL SUPPORT THE GUYS THAT WERE WISE ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THEM THROUGH THE CRATE DEAL. WAKE UP PEOPLE. THESE ARE YOUR SUPER DRIVERS OF HE FUTURE. LET ME ASK YOU THIS? IF YOU WERE RUNNING A CRATE ENGINE AND YOU MOVED UP TO SUPER WOULD YOU BUY A ENGINE FROM A ENGINE BUILDER THAT CONSTANTLY TALKED BAD ABOUT THE SERIES YOU HAD JUST COME FROM? PROBABLY NOT. RACERS AS I REMEMBER IT HAVE PRETTY LONG MEMORIES.

ON THE SUBJECT OF ENGINES. IF I CAN HIRE A ENGINE BUILDER TO DO A $5000 FASTRAK CRATE ENGINE THEN WHY HASN'T SOMEONE ELSE DONE THAT? I AM NO GENIOUS BY ANY MEANS. I HAVE EVEN HAD ENGINES BUILDERS SAY WE COUDLN'T DO IT FOR $5000. THAT WE COULD NOT USE THAT GOOD OF PARTS AND BUILD IT FOR THAT. THEY ACTUALLY HAD ONE OF MY RACERS BELIEVING THAT. GUESS WHAT? THATS THE GUY THAT BLEW THE ENGINE IN SAVANNAH. HE WENT TO OUR ENGINE BUILDER WHEN HE TOOK IT BACK AND HE CALLED THE NAYSAYER ENGINE BUILDER TO LET HIM KNOW THAT IT WAS IN FACT EVERYTHING WE SAID ONLY A LOT MORE. NOW THE NAYSAYER ENGINE BUILDER LOST A LOT OF CREDIBILITY WITH A LOT OF RACERS HERE WHEN THAT HAPPENED. HE SAID HE COULDN'T EVEN BUY THE PARTS FOR $5000 LET ALONE SELL IT FOR THAT. MAYBE HE COULDN'T BUT I CAN. IT TOOK ME THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR TO GET THAT DONE BUT BECAUSE OF HIM STATING INCORRECT INFORMATION HE PROBABLY DID LOSE A LOT OF CREDIBILITY WITH THE DRIVERS HERE. AS YOU KNOW THAT KIND IF THING GETS AROUND PRETTY QUICKLY. NOW THAT WILL PROBABLY COST HIM A TON OF BUSINESS. OH HE WAS TURNING THE ENGINE 7700-7900 WHEN IT BLEW. THEY AREN'T MADE FOR THAT. MAX HP IS AT 6700. MAX TORQUE IS AT 4500. WHY WOULD YOU TURN IT 7700-7900?

SKEPTIAL. I'M CONFUSED. OF WHAT? HAVE YOU REALLY DONE YOUR RESEARCH? THEN HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY BE SKEPTICAL? I ANNOUNCED A $24,000 POINTS FUND LAST YEAR. I PAID $25,600.00. WE PAID EVERYHING WE SAID AND OVERPAID. THERE ARE SOME PRETTY BIG COMPANIES SUPPORTING THIS DEAL AND DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE NOT DONE THIER HOMEWORK? SURELY NOT. ENGINES OUT THERE WITH LOTS AND LOTS OF RACES ON THEM. VERY, VERY FEW PROBLEMS. WHAT ELSE COULD YOU ASK FOR. YOU CALL THEM JUNK? YOU WANNA KNOW HOWM ANY $25K ENGINES I HAVE SEEN BLOW UP IN LESS THAN 10 LAPS? MORE THAN I CARE TO COUNT.

AGAIN, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS, THATS OK. THATS YOUR CHOICE. HEY ITS AMERICA. BUT WE HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE A CHOICE TOO REMEMBER? WE ARE MAKING OURS AND YOU CONTINUE TO TEAR IT DOWN BUT YOU HAVE NOTHING AND I MEAN NOTHING GOOD TO SAY AND YOU STATE NOTHING BUT WHAT YOU CALL FACTS AND THEY INDEED ARE NOT FACTS BUT UNTRUTHS. WE HAVE BUILT OUR CREDIBILITY BY DOING WHAT WE SAY AND MORE TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

WHY WOULD YOU NOT HELP AND SUPPORT SOMEONE FROM YOUR OWN AREA? THESE GUYS WOULD GIVE YOU THE SHIRTS OFF THEIR BACKS. I HAVE NEVER MET TWO FINER PEOPLE IN MY LIFE. DO YOU EVEN KNOW THEM? HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOUR WERE TRYING TO GET A NEW BUSINESS OFF THE GROUND AND THEY KEPT RUNNING ADDS IN THE PAPER TELLING EVERYONE YOUR BUSINESS WAS ALL "SMOKE AND MIRRORS"? MAYBE YOU NEED TO STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE CLOSER. THEY GOT OUT OF THEIR CARS AND BUILT SOMETHING FOR DRIVERS AND YOU CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN. NO WONDER THE SPORT IS IN THE POSITION IT IS RIGHT NOW. THATS EXACTLY THE KIND OF THINKING THAT GOT THE SPORT IN THE POSITION WE ARE IN TODAY. WHERE SOMETHING LIKE THIS CAN COME ALONG BECAUSE IT COST LESS.

I JUST CANNOT IMAGINE WHY LOCAL PEOPLE DON'T SUPPORT LOCAL PEOPLE. SORRY GUYS BUT YOU HAVE DISHED OUT SOME PRETTY HARSH STUFF. THIS MAY SEEM HARSH BUT YOU WILL NOT FIND ONE INCORRECT FACT (OTHER THEN MY TYPNG). NOT TRYING TO BE A B-TT HERE BUT I AM TIRED OF HEARING YOU TRASH THOSE GUYS AND THEY ARE OUT THERE WORKING HARD AND SPENNING MONEY EVERYDAY TRYING TO BUILD THIS DEAL. THEY ARE NICE GUYS AND DESERVE YOUR SUPPORT.

OH BY THE WAY I JUST BUMPED THE POINTS FUND UP TO $12,500.00 FOR YOU GUYS.

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If It 's As Good You Say It Is Let The Action On The Track Speak For You ,you Gave Us Dates Now How About Drivers Supporting The Series
 
first of all since ou wrote an entire book here this morning i figured id give ya my say so on your so to speak facts.before you go telling dean and i that we dont know what we are talkin about,maybe you should think.dean and i both have probably done more engines than you have ever thought about.i can tell you that for $5000 i could put together a motor with better parts and pull a bit more hp..for example.here is a list to prove it..

350 block bored .030,race prepped..$350
oil restrictors and vent tubes-$25
eagle 4340 crank,h-beam rods,srp pistons-$1300 comes with bearing,rings
flat tappet cam,lifters-$150
roller timing chain..$30
buttons,lock plate and roller bearing-$20
oil pump and pan,pickup$75
dart iron eagle heads...$750.00 new assembled
roller rockers,poly loccks-$200
pushrods +100 long--$20 elgin
power plus intake(vic jr copy)$140
valve covers$20
degreeing it all...free
balance rotating assembly-$250
balancer$69
water pump-$50
pullys-$60
gasket set $40
bolts-$100 for all


now i am at $3399,there may be a few other little things but i think you will find that this motor i have just listed is pretty much bullet proof and has alot better parts then your gm crate motors have,this is a engine where you would get your moneys worth..this motor would pull depending on the carb and setting between 500-550 hp...now if you would like to buy 200 of these i could get the parts alot cheaper and id build them all day long for you and i could even make them sealed engines..it isnt that hard to tech either just most guys dont wanna do the work involved,you know it,i know it we all know it...

i also think you better go through and read a little closer,neither dean or myself have ever knocked the guys trying to get this thing going,we wish them the best of luck and hope they do well,it doesnt scare me at all,your fastrack series will never come to the track i race..dean and i both have simply said the motor you are putting in these things would only be good for boat anchors..i have stated many times that i like many things that the series has to offer,and if the crate engines used were better built THEN I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM RUNNING IN THIS SERIES.as far as being scepticle im sure there are alot of poeple scepticle about the series,cause most series that come along out of nowhere are always full of bs.they say they will do this and that and dont do squat!...we will see how you are after the season,until then we can wonder and say what we want cause the fact is there are no facts till you prove yourself to all of us.fastrack in georgia and fastrackk here are two different things..agin get your fascts strait,we have a problem with the motors your running not the series itself,the series seems ok so far..good day!!
 
Dirthound, for once in you life - SHUT UP! Stop being such a damn pessimist about everything. It's NEW TO THIS AREA. Give it a chance to grow and stop being such a douche.

For stupidity above and beyond the call of duty, I award you this MILLSEY AWARD!!
 
I'm done. I know I probably shouldn't but when people keep saying I am b/s I take it personal after a while. I wonder why promoters don't communicate over the internet with racers!

You guys know where to find me if you need me. I will see you guys this year. At least as much as I can. 3 Regions now are enough to keep a man pretty busy. My season starts in just a couple of weeks so things are getting pretty hectic. I look forward to handing out the points checks at the end of the year. Anyone that needs any help with cars, set up or whatever just come on over to our site at www.fastrakracing.com and I think you will see all the guys and some girls are really willing to help you and not b/s you. Call me if you need me. My numbers are on there.

Please remember the fastraktv.com will be up hopefully by June. Races will be one week delayed but available for all to see.

See you folks soon.

Stan Lester
CEO/Founder
Fastrak Champions Series
 
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