Presidential Race - Are We United?

Dirthound:

Your point about property taxes both real and personal is a real one, but it seems that you fail to understand why they are so high and climbing each year.

Each state receives a share of all federal taxes collected, when the top 20% enjoy favored tax status and don't pay their fair share, then each state receives less, the states then are forced to close the gap by raising state tax revenue.

Get your tax book out and you will see that a person making 93,000 per year pays a larger percentage of federal taxes than a person making 186,000. And the higher the income the worse it gets.

John McCain has not only supported this inequality for the past 26 years , he intends to continue it.
 
McCain Campaign Manager Drops Bombshell!!!!!!!

John McCain's campaign manager on Fox News 9 am today, Saturday Nov 1: "He's not going to raise taxes... well, he says he's not going to raise taxes unless he has to.."

Read between the lines. McCain is already considering a tax increase, but wants to keep it quiet during the election. Of course, when he cuts those taxes for the corporations by 10%, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who will be paying the difference. The Middle Class. Again.

McCain is already hedging on tax increases, leaving himself plenty of ways to cover his backside when he flip flops on his promise of not raising taxes. I finally figured out why I dislike him so much. He says things that make people believe he means one thing, but when you really listen, he's leaving himself plenty of room to go the other way. So when he screws us, and people point back to things he has said, he can always say "but that's not what I said" and then reinterpret his own words in whatever way suits his current position.

People say Obama can't be trusted? Take a look at McCain and remember Bush's famous "read my lips, no new taxes." You're looking at the next version of a Bush, a guy who will say one thing to get elected and do something different EVERY time.

Who knows, maybe Obama will do the same thing. But that is something we don't know. What I am convinced of is that lying two faced McCain is already laying the foundation to shed any promise he makes in the campaign. NOT a good indicator for our future under him.
 
bopper said:
My gas prices are regulated by competition and that is what I am seeing since the minimum wage went up. It really did not hurt me as much as a larger company because they rely on more people than me as I am on top of my business myself and do not rely on emplyoees "watching each other" The same on beer and soda my direct competitor across the street raised his 5% and I followed suit. He also has a restaurant and more hired help than I do.
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I used all of the gain plus probably a little more to hire a maintaince man. I was doing it all and getting to the point where I don't need to. There is not enuff margin in gas to have wars like we used to. Also when we had AMOCO you could get a penny or 2 for the quality, now they are all the same. The cut rate gas is a little cheaper but it is bottom of the barrel stuff. In Illinois with all the alcohol in gas the bottom of the barrel stuff only hurts fuel mileage. I don't know about Mo.
 
Thank you. I really appreciate that after all the bashing on me from the liberals on here. This may be the only way to reach many of them because they only know about ABC, CBS, NBC, Jon Stewart and Letterman.
Maybe they should look at the poll you started.

68droptop said:
I think that must be the best post on this entire thread...
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Oh those wacked out liberials, they only consider the real news networks of ABC, CBS, and NBC and never appriciate the National Enquirer, Rush, and Fox where every good republican knows is where you get the real facts of any issue..
 
Phoenix 2 said:
Oh those wacked out liberials, they only consider the real news networks of ABC, CBS, and NBC and never appriciate the National Enquirer, Rush, and Fox where every good republican knows is where you get the real facts of any issue..
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You know there is one thing about Rush that is different, he says right up front everything he is going to say has a right wing slant. Unlike the liberal media who say we are unbiased and only report the news.:D:D
 
Its like Harry Truman once said, "I don't give em hell, I just tell the truth about em and they think its hell".

The right wingnuts think the networks are biased everytime they report the facts.
 
modfan said:
You know there is one thing about Rush that is different, he says right up front everything he is going to say has a right wing slant. Unlike the liberal media who say we are unbiased and only report the news.:D:D
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Switch on MSNBC right now. Been broadcasting the McCain rally live from Perkasie, Pa for the last 45 minutes at least, almost uninterrupted, with little or no commentary from the so called "liberal" newscasters.

Cocky little prick McCain spouted off something about "you seen Obama's infomercial" in reference to the 30 minute ad at a rally last night, well, he's getting his FREE today on MSNBC. What an arrogant little joke he is.

And MSNBC is considered to be the standard bearer for left leaning politically "biased" networks.:rolleyes:
 
Phoenix 2 said:
Its like Harry Truman once said, "I don't give em hell, I just tell the truth about em and they think its hell".

The right wingnuts think the networks are biased everytime they report the facts.
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And they scream "bias" when the media don't perpetuate their lies and smear stories:rolleyes:.
 
t.nie said:
Switch on MSNBC right now. Been broadcasting the McCain rally live from Perkasie, Pa for the last 45 minutes at least, almost uninterrupted, with little or no commentary from the so called "liberal" newscasters.

Cocky little prick McCain spouted off something about "you seen Obama's infomercial" in reference to the 30 minute ad at a rally last night, well, he's getting his FREE today on MSNBC. What an arrogant little joke he is.

And MSNBC is considered to be the standard bearer for left leaning politically "biased" networks.:rolleyes:
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hi you doing liberal just because they are broadcasting it don't mean their views are with him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a91VZUi1IN4 you will love this one you will really love this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuZhwV24PmM
 
...and then they will tear it apart word by word. Apparently you have never seen Olberman and Maddow on MSNBC, two hours of nothing but slamming McCain and Palin and nothing but good things to say about Obama and Biden. Don't know how they can call themselves news programs. :eek:
 
They aren't the news, they are tv shows on a news channel. Just like Bill O'Reilly and Hannity and Colmes. I don't look at them as news shows like the 9 O'Clock News, but as commentary shows.

By the way, I think the biggest difference I see between Olberman and Maddow versus O'Reilly and Hannity is that Olberman and Maddow don't get hateful to their guests and bully them into submission. I think the next time O'Reilly sticks his finger in somebodies face and threatens them the guest oughta bust his finger for him. He's a hateful SOB to some people. I've yet to see Maddow or Olberman get in somebody's face, unlike O'Reilly.
 
dirt hound said:
that right the liberals can do no wrong and the conservatives are mean but oreilly is neither
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I'm curious how you managed to pull all that out of my post about Maddow, Olberman, O'Reilly or Hannity and Colmes? I mean, geesh hound, it's like you go straight to the farthest extreme and attribute a lot more into what people say than what they ACTUALLY say. Hell, I would be no less critical of Olberman or Maddow if they were as genuinely hateful and rude to guests.
 
As if we did not know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thursday, October 23, 2008
Pew Research Shows Media Definitely In The Tank For Obama.

Examples of the medias attempt to influence the presidential election has been shown numerous times, here and elsewhere online, but Pew Research takes it a step further and shows exactly how in the tank the media is for Barack Obama.

For Obama during this period, just over a third of the stories were clearly positive in tone (36%), while a similar number (35%) were neutral or mixed. A smaller number (29%) were negative.

For McCain, by comparison, nearly six-in-ten stories studied were decidedly negative in nature (57%), while fewer than two-in-ten (14%) were positive.


Journalism.org shows that Palin, unlike what the media likes to report, has not been a drag on the McCain/Palin ticket at all:


As for Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, her coverage had an up and down trajectory, moving from quite positive, to very negative, to more mixed. What drove that tone toward a more unfavorable light was probing her public record and her encounters with the press. Little of her trouble came from coverage of her personal traits or family issues. In the end, she also received less than half the coverage of either presidential nominee, though about triple that of her vice presidential counterpart, Joe Biden.

The findings suggest that, in the end, Palin’s portrayal in the press was not the major factor hurting McCain. Her coverage, while tilting negative, was far more positive than her running mate’s.


Thanks to reader Kim R, we also see that despite the media's obvious attempts to harm John McCain in favor of Barack Obama, the IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll, which in 2004, the Final Certified Results for TIPP showed them to be the "most accurate pollster of the campaign season", has the polling numbers far closer than has been reported to date.

IBD/TIPP Poll shows a sudden tightening of Obama's lead to 3.7 from 6.0. McCain has picked up 3 points in the West and with independents, married women and those with some college. He's also gaining momentum in the suburbs, where he's gone from dead even a week ago to a 20-point lead.

Looks like despite the media trying to insist to everyone that the race is over, the voters and respondents of the polls know the media is in the tank for Obama according to another Pew Research piece titled "Most Voters Say News Media Wants Obama to Win."


Voters overwhelmingly believe that the media wants Barack Obama to win the presidential election. By a margin of 70%-9%, Americans say most journalists want to see Obama, not John McCain, win on Nov. 4. Another 8% say journalists don't favor either candidate, and 13% say they don't know which candidate most reporters support.
 
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