Question: SHOULD ALL DRINKING BE BANNED FROM THE PITS???

Is not trying to make light of this thread in any way shape or form. But didnt nascar start from the roots of moonshiners? Runnin' from the law on dirt roads?.........FOOD FOR THOUGHT..........not meant ta stir the pot! But i agree ifin your drivin and or workin on a car, the drinkin should wait till after the show for those folks. Jus my opnion.
 
Common sense here people. If you are in the pits, keep the alchy in the cooler until the races are over. Anyone in violation of this should be booted for the year.
 
Some of the things that people post on here is completely stupid and detremental to our sport. Having a few drinks after the races has always been a large and fun part of our sport in this area, and it would not be the same without it. Those of you that want race tracks to stop selling beer in the stands, and stop letting racers hang out in the pits or back lot and drink after the races should just keep you damn fool mouth shut or go to a track that can't get a liscense to sell beer. To my knowledge drinking in the pits before or during the races is against the rules, and has been at least around here for ever. I do know of some tracks in other states that sell beer in the pits, but that is crazy. Driving a racecar takes a higher level of motor skill than driving a passenger car or pickup truck and trailor, therefore the amount of consumption before a racing event should be limited to 0 for drivers and damn little for pit crews or pit area spectators. I have never raced after drinking that day, and have never approved of anyone else doing it. I am not perfect, and do not feel that I have the right to down or badmouth people who have done otherwise, I just would like to see racers not enduldging before I share the track with them. I try to limit myself the nite before an event, so that I can be sharper when racing.
 
Well..Dean..i guess im stupid..lol. Hey..do this....go talk to your insurance agent..and ask him a scenario..where a driver..gets into a fight..after the races are done..gets hurt..or someone else gets hurt..lawsuits..track is liable due to the fact..event is over and they are responsible for the grounds. Thats all im saying..and i agree most are cool..but..there's things that happen on the track..emotions go ape..and chit hits the fan. Plus..not to mention..kids are walking all over the place..trying to see the cars up front. Best thing is..no drinks..leave as soon as the crowd widdles down..keep security all over..and everyone goes home..safely.
 
Millsey, there IS a definate problem at that track, and it has led to serious injuries there. They needed to implement rules concerning the matter a LONG TIME AGO. Too much sand in the promoters ears to hear the problem sooner I guess..... :eek:

On a side note- I was a very big fan of a local racer before I started driving. After I started, I witnessed this guy (while racing with us) standing in front of the hauler, swapping a whiskey bottle back and forth with one of his crew guys. I lost ALL respect for this guy that night. After seeing this I thought to myself- My balls would be as big as his in a car if I was jack'd up like that. :mad: It has taken me a very long time to gain any respect for him since. It was a one night deal as far as I know, but that one night ruined a hero. It could have been much worse. There should never be drinking in the pits, and everyone should be keeping an eye on others if it is to happen afterwards. Like it or not, there is some little kid watching his hero at the track. It might be your own kid or a kid you've never met, and being irresponsible and reckless can very easily overshadow the heroic moves on track--it can also do alot more in a tragedy...especially if it involved the kid. :(
 
I don't want to ramble on, but I have a little more to say. I do not care who that is working on a car or spectating in the pits has one or two descretely in a trailor, as long as they act in a way that does not show any intoxication, but we can not have people in an area like a racetrack pit area all trashed while the event is happening and expect it to be safe. I do not see a problem with people starting to descretely have one or two in their trailors while thay are putting thier stuff away AFTER THEIR FEATURE, in the pit areas, that really depends on how that track really wants to inforce the rules. I think if a pit area spectator is found to be noticible intoxicated by an official, they should be escorted to the grandstands an thier pit pass confinscated.

I get extreemly sick of people who get on here and down mouth anyone who drinks, cusses, or lives normally. Those of you self rightous hypocrits who think you are better than everyon else because you dont drink or cuss, and we do, can kiss my fat hairy white ***. I do know people who should not drink, or use having a few drinks as an excuse to show thier ***, and most of those people are not good people, and would still not be good people if the rode the wagon the rest of thier lives.
 
Oh boy. Dean..i drink beer..cut up..have a good time..just like any ole dirt racer loves..just theres a time and a place for that. Drinking..in any event..just adds to problems because..Dean..i can see you seem to beleive you handle yourself well while drinking..and most do..but..there is and always will be the rotten apple of the bunch to stir it up. Like i said..ask your insurance agent..if you dont beleive me..tracks are liable for anyone..even after an event..as long as they are on their property. If someone leave said establishment..drunk..cause caos somewhere(god forbid)..its just like a tavern....they can be held accountable. Is that right..no. But..life isnt in general. You telling us..100 percent of the racers wouldnt show..if drinking was banned? You say the same thing about qualifying..i think thats just a personal feeling because driver's will come..and race..no matter what system you have. If a pill scares them...then theres other issues there also. If they get mad about the drinking..well..obviosly they cant stand not to drink..and thats a problem. Reason why i bring the deal about drinking and kids...i personally 5 yrs ago seen a driver..get nasty to some kid..after the races..when the kid only wanted to get a signature. Im no Richard Petty..but i took him aside..and gave him mine..and got several other dudes to sign his stuff too. That ****s. Imagine what was going through his mind. And when the fight broke out at Godfrey...people were all around..classy.
 
imagine that.. one of the biggest supporters of drinking and driving gets on here and says alchoholic drinks should not be allowed in the pits before or during the races, but then he gets on here in another post and says he doesn't have a problem with discreetly taking a drink in their trailer after their feature. man!!!! talk about a person talking out of both sides of his big hairy white as*. (his words, NOT MINE!).
 
Dean said:
I do not see a problem with people starting to descretely have one or two in their trailors while thay are putting thier stuff away AFTER THEIR FEATURE, in the pit areas, that really depends on how that track really wants to inforce the rules.
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I think he means what he says here, that having a beer when you and your part of the show is done is acceptable as long as you don't flaunt it and start having a big party outside of your hauler while other people are still waiting to race. He doesn't think everyone should have to wait until the last feature is done to crack open a beer; it is ok to have one if you are finished racing for the night and you do it discretely.

Dean said:
I think if a pit area spectator is found to be noticible intoxicated by an official, they should be escorted to the grandstands an thier pit pass confinscated.
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And here he says that if anyone is noticably intoxicated, they should be escorted out of the pit area. Personally, I think if you drink til you are hammered at the track, then you should be removed entirely from the premises. But that is just what I think.

Personally, the worst thing I ever saw was the coke spread out on the hood with the crack pipe laying next to it while the crew chief was shooting up and the crew were hitting the bong after taking their X. That was kinda out of hand...:p :rolleyes:

I am glad I don't drink much. I probably had a six pack all year after the races. I like my diet Coke.
 
We take beer with us on ice, because sometimes the races are not over until way past the closing time of liquor stores. One time at Kentucky Motor Speedway, we were stopped and searched on the way in to the track! They confiscated our beer, as well as water and Gatorade, said we could get it on the way out. When we picked it up, we were a six-pack short! Imagine that. The track's Security Chief said he was going to investigate to find the perp, and we would get our beer back! Rrriight. From then on, we had a new rule: the coolers go IN the trailer, not the truck!
 
ok now i think these personal attacks are way out of line. yes midget racer i'm talking to you. yes i'll be the first one to tell anyone yes i have had my share of dwi's, am i proud of that? HELL NO!! do i think about the fact that i very well been killed or even worse kill someone else? HELL YES DAMN NEAR EVERY DAY!!!!! did i learn my lesson? YES. now if i drink my wife drives, but see this is my right to post about my personal problems. maybe the person you posted about has learned his lesson also. and i'm sure if he feels that the whole world needs to see it on here he will post it. WHERE IN THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO PERSONALLY ATTACK HIM? a wise man once told me, "you keep runnin your mouth and someone is gonna shut it for you" i found out the hard way. the man was right!
 
contrary to what people want to read into this, i did not attack anyone. no more than they made references to me. i simply stated what tracks and insurance companies are maybe going to start enforcing, and nothing more. i did not say i wanted this to happen, just that it was on the horizon, so to speak.i certainly have no say-so in what happens in the future,so it's not my decision. re-read his posts,people. all those references he made are towards me. i am big enough, i can take it. if he can make references to me, i can towards him as well. he has my phone number, and is welcome to call and talk.i just repeated his own words in this and earlier posts. i stand behind what i say,and always will.
 
midget racer said:
imagine that.. andone of the biggest supporters of drinking driving gets on here and says alchoholic drinks should not be allowed in the pits before or during the races, but then he gets on here in another post and says he doesn't have a problem with discreetly taking a drink in their trailer after their feature. man!!!! talk about a person talking out of both sides of his big hairy white as*. (his words, NOT MINE!).
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hmmmm i guess calling him one of the biggest supporters of drinking driving is not a personal attack? WHATEVER!!!!!
 
sloppy... dunno what business it is of yours to stick your face into this subject, but let me remind you of a little 'discussion' dean and i had oh... maybe not quite a year ago. as i recall, you stuck your face into that one as well. it dealt with a scott wimmer dui post, one that dean took great displeasure in. he seemed to think there was not a big deal in drinking and driving. do not want to quote anybody wrong here, so i will leave it at that. joe,go back and find the post about wimmer. you're a smart guy. i am done with this, as i said nothing wrong; just my opinion... just as others post their opinions, and do not get the reactions i seem to get when i post mine. just remember people... i did not start this subject...jeff mills did. if he didn't want some opinions from all of us,then he shouldn't have started the thread to begin with. right, mills??
 
Millsey

SHOULD ALL DRINKING BE BANNED FROM THE PITS??? Man your so crazy about that. Cause you know that the drivers love to drink in the pits after they all are done racing. So, no it should not be banned from the pits.
 
And i see someone decided to take points away from my reputation..on this issue. Congrats to whoever it was. Call your local insurance agents..i see noone is doing this. And ask them about this scenario..and you will get an earful..trust me. This is something that is coming to local tracks like a freight train so everyone better get ready. If people cant have a good time without drinking..then is it really having fun when you do.
 
It was Dean..go figure. I got a right to express my opinion Dean..and if you dont agree..well..there's others here not agreeing with you either.
 
I was just asking a question for responses about the subject and not individuals. I was reading an article about the problems alcohol (and drugs) have caused race promoters in the pits and how some are now going to drastic measures (like banning alcohol all together in the pits) to combat the problem.

By the way, I did want to tell everyone that most of the responses here were outstanding and I'm probably going to be using some of them in an upcoming article. I'm sure not only do I think the feedback is interesting so would the area promoters.
 
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