TCS - Caution Filled Modified Heats???

RACE39 said:
That is true! Also too many drivers with the "HERO or ZERO mentality! WIN or CRASH, one or the other!

BTW.....Pitboss, I do believe I seen a thread started by your brother-in-law. In which he called someone a fool in its title. If he can dish it he should take it!
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Like you said in another post:Everybody is born ignorant. Some just choose to stay that way.....
who said i cant take it Race39,i made a mistake,dont you ever make them?
 
HMRT MotorSports said:
QUOTE" If you dont have fans in the stands you will not be racing very long. So there for I believe you do need the fans so you can race!
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For one the racers dont get payed from Fans money,,they get paid out of the pit pass money that the racers pay to get in!! so a race still could be held with no fans in the stands.! the first thing a track needs is cars,,then second is the fans! SO THE TRACK NEEDS FANS, NOT THE RACER,Look at the Fans that leave early from a show,Like when the late models are over half the fans go home,,so you think those other clases will not benifit,,because the fans went home,,LOL the racer gets payed !!! THE TRACK LOSES money when you dont show up to pay for your food and a ticket, what most BENCH RACERS think is that they foot the bill,,,NOT,your 10 dollars goes to the Owner of the track not the racer!
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ok now i have a question?? If the fans don't pay the purse why the Hell do i have to pay extra when the outlaws run, when the wallaces show up and any other specials show is at any track. Is it to buy more hot dogs and beer??


Dave Wulf
JUMPINJACKDW
 
jumpinjack1dw said:
ok now i have a question?? If the fans don't pay the purse why the Hell do i have to pay extra when the outlaws run, when the wallaces show up and any other specials show is at any track. Is it to buy more hot dogs and beer??


Dave Wulf
JUMPINJACKDW
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I have another question for HMRT: If fans were so irrelevant in terms of covering the purse, it seems that we would see tracks everywhere razing all their spectator stands in order to expand their pit areas. I don't see that going on, do you? :rolleyes:
 
HMRT MotorSports said:
Like you said in another post:Everybody is born ignorant. Some just choose to stay that way.....
who said i cant take it Race39,i made a mistake,dont you ever make them?
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Yeah I guess your right. You weren't the one getting defensive About what Q said.

No I'm perfect I make mistakes.
 
Well, now that I have had ample time to...
tc521 said:
THINK before you post.
Terry Chester
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I THINK you shoud take your own advice because it would have been real easy to add BUT SERIOUSLY between you supposed punch line and your serious statements. Blending it all into one paragraph with no distinction could be and was miss interperted.
 
Pitboss88 said:
This is why I pretty much think message boards s u c k. It was pretty friggin obvious that Terry was joking around, and yet someone took his comment seriously. :confused: I just don't get it sometimes......
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Obvious to someone that see's and talks to him each week, maybe. I have never talked to him.
Grammer and puncuation can be your friend when trying to make your point.
 
I believe the problem with the modifieds are the out of hand motors, this was always meant to be a claimer class. Put the crate motors in these instead of the late models and you would have much better racing. Kenny
 
It still technically is a claimer class, but when was the last time a claim was made that wasn't a grudge claim? For that matter, when was the last time you were at a drivers meeting where they said "The claim area after the feature will be in such and such location?"

From www.umpracing.com
11. ENGINE CLAIMS

11.1. Any qualified U.M.P. competitor has the right to claim any engine at any time during a U.M.P. event if a claim is made against it. The claim is $550.00 + exchange of engine and $50.00 for the tow truck. Claims do not include: flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, bell housing, headers, carburetor, starter, fan & pulleys, motor mount, sending units and switches for oil pressure and water temperature, carburetor adaptor, clutch ball, clutch arm, throw out bearings, dip stick, water pump, distributor, plug wires or fuel pump.

11.2. Any driver wishing to make a claim must have taken the checkered flag in the feature and be on the same lap as the leader. The claim must be made in cash or certified check to promoter within 5 (five) minutes after the completion of the feature. The driver must have the claim payment and his/her U.M.P. current/valid license available – a third party cannot provide these items to the claiming driver. (Yearly membership runs from February 1 through January 31.) All claims, positive or negative, are to be reported immediately to U.M.P. headquarters by the event promoter. No driver can make over 2 (two) claims in U.M.P. within the same year. A driver can claim another driver’s engine only once during the year. Only the engine of the event winner can be claimed. In case of multiple claims on the same engine, the engine will go to a qualified driver who finished the furthest back in the field on the lead lap. No driver may claim an engine if he/she has spun out and caused a caution period. If a claim is refused, the claim is not held against the claiming driver. The motivation behind claiming is to keep the prices affordable and create competitive racing.

11.3. Any driver making a claim must drive his/her car immediately after the finish of the feature, under its own power, directly to the claiming area. Only drivers and officials are allowed in the claiming area. Claiming area must be designated by the promoter to all drivers at the driver’s meeting prior to the feature event. The feature winner must go to the claiming area immediately following the finish of the feature event. If no driver comes immediately to the claiming area, the winner may proceed to the pits.

11.4. The claimed engine must be completely removed within 1(one) hour from the time the claim is made.

11.5. The first sell/no sell or trade of the engine by the driver being claimed is considered binding.

11.6. Only a qualified driver may claim an engine and only the winning driver may agree to sell.

11.7. Refusal to sell forfeits all cash, trophies and contingency winnings for the feature as well as all U.M.P. State and Nationals points’ award for that night. Any driver refusing to sell his/her engine the first time is fined $200.00 and is suspended from racing at any and all U.M.P. sanctioned race tracks and events for 1 (one) week. The second infraction for a driver refusing to sell their engine carries a $600.00 and suspended for 4 (four) weeks.

11.8. All claimed engines must be removed from the car at the track. The buyer must examine the engine before removal. Once removal has started, the sale is final. Any sabotage to claim an engine will result in the saboteur being suspended from all U.M.P. races for 30 (thirty) days and until the fine of $1,000.00 is paid to U.M.P.

11.9. To claim an engine, the claiming driver must have raced at least 1/2 (one-half) of the sanctioned events at the sanctioned track where the claim is made or at least the last 3 (three) consecutive feature events at that track. A driver can have his/her engine claimed at any time. No claim can be made against a driver on his/her first night at a sanctioned track.
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I agree, but some people just flat out cant drive and that is the way it is. There is not much that can be done for that.
 
I-55 still has a claim area. The winner pulls into each night after the feature once they are through weighing. They sit there for 5 or 10 minutes.
 
I didn't know they still had a claim. Maybe ump ought to automatically claim every engine on its 5th win and auction the motors off at the end of the year. Kenny
 
With the cost of these motors everyone is just to afraid to claim someone, and if they do you are bound to have some more fighting and bickering.
 
bopper said:
I didn't know they still had a claim. Maybe ump ought to automatically claim every engine on its 5th win and auction the motors off at the end of the year. Kenny
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I think the person who claims a motor has to give up his motor to the person who was claimed,so i dont think that would fly!!
 
Sounds to me like it's too late to shut the barn doors, the horsepower has already bolted. :)
 
The whole promblem is the MODS racing on that little track. I was at TRI CITY 2 weeks ago and could not believe they ran the MODS on that little track. It is the stupidest thing I have ever seen in racing. I feel they need to run the big track, they use to years ago and it was the best show around. (JMO)
 
Even when the mods were on the half mile they were still the most caution filled event of the evening. As George said earlier those of us that worked in the tower used to bet a dollar to see who would pick the right lap the first caution came out. Most nights no lap at all was the winner or first lap.
 
Racelver said:
The whole promblem is the MODS racing on that little track. I was at TRI CITY 2 weeks ago and could not believe they ran the MODS on that little track. It is the stupidest thing I have ever seen in racing. I feel they need to run the big track, they use to years ago and it was the best show around. (JMO)
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TCS isnt the only small track the mods race on............
 
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