Time has come for this change!

Come on Millsey, everybody loves a big conspiracy. I hate it when it gets all mucked up with facts! You got to admit, the timeline thing was rather creative and factual!!! And there's nothing wrong with a little paranoia is there?
 
Millsey said:
All I was saying was it's probably going to be an approved track rule at MCS for 2006, we need to look at the same rule for the RAMS.
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So is Mel actually going to take control of the ministocks at MCS? This past offseason, he pretty much didn't want to be hassled with them, just decided to use RAMS rules and let the RAMS take care of the payout.
 
36mmracer said:
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Cobra: You said there are already good rods (GM?) out there, if so what are they? I know the ones I use are the best GM S-10 rods and your lucky if they stay inside the block anything over 5,800 RPM's. The Fords are turning 7,800.
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Marty Boyer #52 Proud RAMS member
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(GM?) I'd say they are not GM rods, as long as the ministocks have been racing in this area it would have not takin this long to figure out a GM combo that would stay together. You guy's are smarter than that. I'm not going to mention names, because its pretty obvious who twists them hard every night and they stay together. Just an opinion from an outsider. Jon
 
My Thoughts Also Mark ...

At our very first meeting Mel made it perfectly clear he liked what the RAMS was about and that is exactly how he would run his track.He said he had enough to take care of so he wanted us to sorta " take care of ourselves " He didnt want to have to provide a Tech person and he didnt even want to mess with writing out the checks to the drivers. So, we came to an agreement that worked well for Mel and the RAMS. And now Jeff is posting about the changes that Mel is making for the RAMS next season ??? Im sure if i asked Trashdog, Shannon, Crystal or myself... NONE of us has heard that from Mel. Could it be that " someone " is talking to Mel, conviencing him what he should or shouldnt do for the 2006 season ??? Im just curious because you are speaking as if it is a done decision, and THE RAMS OFFICERS , have not heard a word of that........ LD :)
 
That is my house payment

Don't do away with stock bodies , usually twice a year Bad Bob makes my house payment with the repairs and repainting of his stock body . And I can really say then ... " I LOVE YOU BOB "

Michael
 
Nick said:
Don't do away with stock bodies , usually twice a year Bad Bob makes my house payment with the repairs and repainting of his stock body . And I can really say then ... " I LOVE YOU BOB "

Michael
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Now thats the attitude :) or if they do go to flat sides maybe you could become an alluminum dealer.
 
There are GM rods that will keep it together, they just didn't come out in a 2.5! There is alot of other stuff you have to do to make them work which could also deem you combo illegal the way I read the rules! But once again I have only read DRR rules and need to read both to be sure. And I'm not going to bother untill the rules for 2006 come about. Got burnt last time on that one.
 
I understand why you wouldn't bother reading the RAMS rules until the 2006 rules are finalized but if by chance you would like to take a look at the 2005 rules, here's a link:

2005 RAMS Rules
 
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pwracing said:
There are GM rods that will keep it together, they just didn't come out in a 2.5! There is alot of other stuff you have to do to make them work which could also deem you comb illegal the way I read the rules! But once again I have only read DRR rules and need to read both to be sure. And I'm not going to bother untill the rules for 2006 come about. Got burnt last time on that one.
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2.3 Pinto's did not come out with Escort flywheels but they are stock production parts so its allowed.
 
Thanks, I did take a quick look and it looks like in some areas you can do a little more. There is one rule in DRR that the RAMS don't have that would allow me to do one of the things I would like to do. Don't want to show my hand just yet, but it gives me a few ideas.
 
Jesus people, stop reading into things like that. Mel has said all along he would like to see that rule about the engines. I've not talked with him about anything with the RAMS other than us just talking about the class in general. Tom, I'm sorry. You're not the one paranoid.... LOL...
 
Am I reading this right? Is MCS going to have a DIFFERENT set of rules than the RAMS next year? I have read two or more times that it looks like MCS is going to adopt this rule for the 2006 season. Now, the RAMS may or may not vote this in, so the question is....Will MCS have their own rules, do their own payout, etc????? I'm just asking because it does sound like something that is in the works and the RAMS haven't even discussed it. And currently, MCS goes by RAMS rules.
 
I may not be the one thats paranoid but I beleive I did start most of this paranoia. One of these days I'll tell you all about the time a ran a Ford drag car for ten years or maybe how myself and a few friends started in the great game of dirt tracking with a couple of Fords, but that would just cloud the whole situation we have going on here and I'm having too much fun now to make it all stop. Besides it sounds like we are getting a ground swell developing on the rod situation!
 
Paranoid??? I don't think so. You obviously don't know me. :rolleyes: I was just asking a question. I'm sure that the RAMS would love it if MCS would take care of the ministocks the way they do every other class. Just think of the money the organization would save in stamps and envelopes to mail checks out every week. Not to mention the trouble of getting addresses for drivers that aren't members that show up occasionally.
 
No kidding...............it didn't seem like that big of a deal at first, but DANG stamps are .37 each and that adds up QUICK!!! And getting addresses for drivers that show up and aren't members can sometimes be difficult. It would just be easier and better for the RACERS if MCS did the mini-stock payout the way they do all the other classes. Now, with that said, I feel that the officers have done a good job taking care of this each week. Trashdog always comes thru on his end and LD or myself get the checks in the mail ASAP!
 
i agree with marty, he always seems to say things politicaly correct, something i sometimes mess up. i have approached bobby, kenny, and gary about the rod rule and have not heard of any changes. i am just hoping that they will give it some serious conceration. but one person alone usally does not get it done, so come on guys[chevy owners] lets hear from you. like marty said... no advantage, stock length, same weight or heaver ect.... we just need them to stay toghter. i am sitting on the side lines again because of this, and i want to be racing. thanks brian
 
No, i think the Paranoid thing was possibly aimed at me ..... or any of us that was " wandering " if Jeff knew something we didnt ... SIMPLE ! And as Mark said, if they decide to run their own rules and do their own payouts that is their option. I spend ALOT of time on getting the payouts written and in the mail to the guys every week , after i go get the payout results/check from Trashdog , and doing the secretary/treasures jobs both sometime is alot of work , BUT, i make a special effort to get the drivers their check ASAP, incase they need the money for repairs to their cars. LD :)
 
I just got off the phone with Mel and he said
#1 if anybody has a question about what he said or did just ask him if you can’t wait for him to say dont bring him into stuf he didnt say or do.
#2 He doest like change (really means he’s hard headed) and does not want to mess with the RAMS except for the way we are doing it now.
#3 He does think any make motor in any car is a good idea but that’s up to the RAMS as a whole not him.
#4 Just a warning if there are problems on or at the track that continue to escalate and get out of hand he wont put up with the problems so lets all behave!!!!
 
Thanks Joe

It is good to hear something that came from " Mels " mouth. I knew Mel was happy with the way the RAMS was set up and i figured he would leave it that way ( up to the RAMS to make the rules/ decisions) . And as far as the " behavior " on the track , i am glad that he is paying attention to it ! Or, has been made aware of it, it is not cheap to pay for torn up crapp every week ! Thanks Mel ( and Joe ) for your input ! LD :)
 
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