UMP license??

Tim Camren said:
Tom it was the extra 25 that was not in the budget. It was 55 for that night if it was 30 just for the pit pass I would have been cool but extra 25 not cool
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Are you saying that extra $25.00 caused your motor to blow.
 
Tim Camren said:
My driver went a few weeks ago and they asked him for his license he said what license and they told him ump and told him for 1 night it was 25.00. So he paid it and the 30 for the pit pass. Made 6 laps in the heat then blew up. So is ump going to help with the rebuilding of a motor or are they just going to says thanks for the 25 and have a nice day. Now I'm out about 200 dollars and a blown motor .wow ump is awesome not. Now I say lets get rid of ump
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They are not in the business of insuring motors.
 
I think Tim is fustrated because they have a license to race plus the pit pass and he probly had to change tires from d to a. And it is hard for the under funded teams to race. And it is supposed to be fun at a budget. Not them telling u to pay more to race
 
Ok Tom listen if you go to watch the grandstand admission is usually 12 or so except big shows now with that being Said you expect to pay 12 and when you get there they tell you 40 would you stay or go that is what happen to us except it was to race now do you get it
 
I am not a racer just a fan. Like so many other things what started out a good idea has turned into a monster the only thing consistant with ump is the drivers pay more for what? ump can't even come up with unified rules for the lower classes. do you ever think that a promoter will be brave enough to run a non sanctioned ump track? and if all of the promoters are on board with the deal to have a license then I guess they got what they wanted united midwest promoters. but when guys & gals become disinterested and leave the sport don't blame everything on the economy.
 
Tim Camren said:
Ok Tom listen if you go to watch the grandstand admission is usually 12 or so except big shows now with that being Said you expect to pay 12 and when you get there they tell you 40 would you stay or go that is what happen to us except it was to race now do you get it
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Tim, I would find out what it is going to cost before I go. Every other sanctioning body, you have to buy a membership before you can race. If you race 10 times a year that's an extra $10.00 a night and if you race 20 times a year that's an extra $5.00 a night and if you can't afford that then you probably don't need to be racing.

When you went to the pay window and they told you it was going to be 25.00 for a temporary license you had the option to tell them no thanks and turn around and go back home. So, really the person you need to be blaming is yourself and not the track.
 
latemod said:
I am not a racer just a fan. Like so many other things what started out a good idea has turned into a monster the only thing consistant with ump is the drivers pay more for what? ump can't even come up with unified rules for the lower classes. do you ever think that a promoter will be brave enough to run a non sanctioned ump track? and if all of the promoters are on board with the deal to have a license then I guess they got what they wanted united midwest promoters. but when guys & gals become disinterested and leave the sport don't blame everything on the economy.
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No, UMP has unified rules for the lower classes but, what they don't do is enforce those rules.
 
Most sanctioning bodies require a license or membership for racers to compete in their events. A sanction needs money to operate, and turn a profit.
The problem with the UMP license is some racers don't recognize the value they receive. The insurance policy has value. The point fund has value. Uniform rules (at least for the LM and mods) has value.
Where UMP falls short is with their non-uniform rules in the sportsman and stock car divisions, their lack of meaningful tech inspection, their very inconsistent rulings.
There is value for the tracks being UMP sanctioned as well. Just as with the racers, the promoters I've talked to are divided in their opinion of UMP.
Today's UMP has certainly strayed from what Mr. Memmers created. I don't see a viable alternative currently.
 
Havoline28 it's not the money issue I have not seen any we're stating a license if they posted it here I must have missed it. But when you pay for the pit pass and that is paid then you walk over to to the pill draw and sign in that's when they asked him and my driver was going to leave he asked for a refund for the pit pass and they told him no. The should ask every one when you buy the pit pass and it would be all good. And yes it would be cheeper to buy a yearly pass and if we new about it in advance and not finding out at the last min every thing would be good
 
Havoline28 it's not the money issue I have not seen any we're stating a license if they posted it here I must have missed it. But when you pay for the pit pass and that is paid then you walk over to to the pill draw and sign in that's when they asked him and my driver was going to leave he asked for a refund for the pit pass and they told him no. The should ask every one when you buy the pit pass and it would be all good. And yes it would be cheeper to buy a yearly pass and if we new about it in advance and not finding out at the last min every thing would be good
 
its pretty simple to see why the tracks all keep ump. they have to be paying them some of that hoosier $. why else would the tracks keep them around when they do nothing for drivers/fans?
 
Tim Camren said:
Havoline28 it's not the money issue I have not seen any we're stating a license if they posted it here I must have missed it. But when you pay for the pit pass and that is paid then you walk over to to the pill draw and sign in that's when they asked him and my driver was going to leave he asked for a refund for the pit pass and they told him no. The should ask every one when you buy the pit pass and it would be all good. And yes it would be cheeper to buy a yearly pass and if we new about it in advance and not finding out at the last min every thing would be good
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Tim, if that is the case that would be the last time I would go to that track. There was no reason for them not to refund your money.
 
If you think about it all they want is money now if they put it towards prize money that would be awesome but I don't see that happening
 
Revin said:
All licenses are monitored weekly by results from all the UMP tracks. We are notified after the weekend if there
are any non-members racing. If we allow a non-member to race we are then billed for his or her membership.

Thanks, Kevin
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Revin said:
All licenses are monitored weekly by results from all the UMP tracks. We are notified after the weekend if there
are any non-members racing. If we allow a non-member to race we are then billed for his or her membership.

Thanks, Kevin
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UMP is feeding a line of crap! Here is a list from UMP's website and It is FULL of non members. I also know of someone who just recently joined ump because they now believe they have a chance to make some money..
 
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