Should all tracks in the STL area go to the Hoosier A & H only tire rule for UMP Modifieds?

Should all tracks in the STL area go to the Hoosier A & H only tire rule?

  • YES - A & H's Only

    Votes: 99 62.7%

  • NO - Keep it as is.. Allow A, D & H's

    Votes: 47 29.7%

  • I'm fine either way...

    Votes: 12 7.6%
  • Total voters
    158
go to a's and h's only, the problem with only h's is only 27.5 size tires.

i know i dont know anything, but i think sportman should go to asphalt take off tires. the only major problem i would think of is if the late model guys got mad because the sportsman point fund would be bigger than theirs. a new 10" aero regular wheel is $65, i have been told these tracks can get truck loads of these tires just for the cost of shipping. if pevely has an average of 25 cars a night, and the average guy used 10 tires in one year and they sold each tire for $25, how much money would that be kids? that would be $6250. however, if a fresh tire was only $25 and not $115 or so, i bet there would be guys willing to buy one or even 2 tires a night. yeah, this is rediculous, but if pevely had 25 cars buy 2 tires a night, and got 16 nights in, and the track paid $5 a tire and sold them for $25 a tire that would be a $16,000 profit by my calculations. the current sportsman point fund is $2575. i am just saying you could go buy a new 10" wheel and an ashpalt take off tire for about $30 less for than an EMOD. the only reason i get to not go to a's and h's only or to asphalt tires is the hoosier tire point money they give allied and highland. if my tire bill went from 15 emods ($115) at $1725 to 30 asphalt tires at $25 each for a total of $750 for the year, i wouldnt need a point check. and i would swear a take off would last a lot longer than an emod. maybe this is why we see officials always wearing hoosier tire jackets. anybody follow that?
 
I vote for whatever rule saves money and promotes quality racing. I'm just a fan that wants the class to survive! :>
 
They just need to have a meeting with MODIFIED DRIVERS ONLY so we can vote because i know there are alot of people voting who have nothing to do with it!!!
 
lets have a real vote tell the sportsmen and ss to not vote just mod drivers. ya lol and did any body let hoosier tire know that track owners r trying to push 1 of there tires sales out hhhhmmmmmmmmm.
 
there is no way you can get a fare vote on here because you dont no if there mod guys or not and theres not even 80 mod drivers who run those tracks week to week thats why need to have a meeting with just mod guys..just need to leave it alone if I can buy it let me run it..
 
The problem with the D isn't the durometer number of the tire, it's the amount of rubber on the tire straight from Hoosier. If you cut the tire down it will last far longer and you will see a big performance advantage.

The A is the worst tire Hoosier makes. The sidewall is junk, the rubber blend is a huge mistake, and overall the tire is extremely inconsistant. I have a passionate hatred for this tire.

The H is one of the best tires out by Hoosier. If you want to make a tire rule go to all H's. The Wissota H has a 26.5 sidewall so Hoosier could do the same for the E-mod tire. The tire is amazingly consistant, long lasting, overall good tire.

Make it a D and H rule if you want to make things better.
 
this could back fire,,,used d are cheap and readly available,,used a & hs are in demand,,you make them the only option in 2 more classes and the supply of used rubber will dry up fast putting the low bux racer in a no win deal...
 
bleed_blue16 said:
The problem with the D isn't the durometer number of the tire, it's the amount of rubber on the tire straight from Hoosier. If you cut the tire down it will last far longer and you will see a big performance advantage.

Which I'm sure you would gladly do for everybody for a nominal price.

The A is the worst tire Hoosier makes. The sidewall is junk, the rubber blend is a huge mistake, and overall the tire is extremely inconsistant. I have a passionate hatred for this tire.

Isn't that what your sacred treatment is supposed to be for.

The H is one of the best tires out by Hoosier. If you want to make a tire rule go to all H's. The Wissota H has a 26.5 sidewall so Hoosier could do the same for the E-mod tire. The tire is amazingly consistant, long lasting, overall good tire.

Make it a D and H rule if you want to make things better.
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Since all you do is raise the cost for the racer, I doudt if they will listen to your advice.
 
if everybody crying about just going to an A or H because of the cost go bmod racing an the cost will go down alot. leave the rule alone. if the track promoters is worried so much about the cost of racing lower the cost of pit passes a lil an that will help alot. we run d's all the time at tricity all the time an never hurt a tire so the guys killing a's an h's my advice is a lil throttle control will save you alot of money
 
my opinion is to stay with the A&Ds why should we all change when most of us already have our tires I say we stay with what we have it is working
 
Been there, done that,

Yes I can cut tires, but there is a method to the madness. Less rubber=less heat, it doesn't change the durometer number of the tire but it does change the charactristics of how the tire operates. As far as the A goes, no, even the prep can't create magic. It's a crap tire.

To be honest I'm not arguing about any of this, just stating the facts. If the prepping was legal the drivers would tell you that it actually makes the tires last longer. They obviously can't do that on an open forum. Second thing, if you talk to the Mod guys who I've dealt with they will also tell you by cutting the D it made the tire last longer. Both of which save the drivers money in the long run.
 
if you dont like how long a D last there is a really simple solution to that problem.....dont buy them but dont punish the guys that can make them work
 
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